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There is a simple solution - use a small electric car/microcar with small battery for driving in the city.

jjtheblunt 3y ago
the BMW i3 fits that, as did the Fiat 500e? (i had a 2014 BMW i3, and it was super weird and super useful for just such situations, including suburbia in my case)
- alamortsubite 3y ago
  A Renault Twizy would be better. Or much better, an electric bike. Paris bike infrastructure is getting very good.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    In traffic the Twizy isn't all that much better than a motorcycle, I would go for a car chassis based EV before even considering a Twizy. I also think they are way too expensive for what they offer.
    - alamortsubite 3y ago
      To each his own. As a motorcyclist, I feel a motorcycle is better than a Twizy, but in Paris a Twizy is a lot better than a small car for navigating traffic and parking.
      - jacquesm 3y ago
        As a parent I wouldn't go near a motorcycle let alone ride one in traffic. When I was a kid that was different but the responsibility towards my family precludes me from taking excessive risk. The Twizy embodies excessive risk for me to a degree that I would not drive one.
  - _ache_ 3y ago
    Yes ! I worked on the Mobilize Duo (the Twizy successor, will be available soon) and it's revolutionary. I think it may be too much for French people, It's about establishing a new way of thinking. The car can't be purchased, only rented. It's very light and ONLY designed for urban trip. There is also a version for light local service !
- gambiting 3y ago
  We have a VW e-UP, that fits the bill perfectly, and I honestly like it more than our 400bhp Volvo. It fits everywhere, goes 150 miles on a charge, fits us both and a child seat, Costco shopping.......honestly that's the perfect city/mixed use EV. And if only weighs 1200kg.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    The e-UP is a nice little vehicle. We had an ICE one (the cheapest version) as a company runabout and it was ridiculously fuel efficient and light, the e- version wasn't for sale yet then but if it had been I'm pretty sure we would have bought one. And likely then we'd still have it today.

the BMW i3 fits that, as did the Fiat 500e? (i had a 2014 BMW i3, and it was super weird and super useful for just such situations, including suburbia in my case)

alamortsubite 3y ago
A Renault Twizy would be better. Or much better, an electric bike. Paris bike infrastructure is getting very good.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  In traffic the Twizy isn't all that much better than a motorcycle, I would go for a car chassis based EV before even considering a Twizy. I also think they are way too expensive for what they offer.
  - alamortsubite 3y ago
    To each his own. As a motorcyclist, I feel a motorcycle is better than a Twizy, but in Paris a Twizy is a lot better than a small car for navigating traffic and parking.
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      As a parent I wouldn't go near a motorcycle let alone ride one in traffic. When I was a kid that was different but the responsibility towards my family precludes me from taking excessive risk. The Twizy embodies excessive risk for me to a degree that I would not drive one.
- _ache_ 3y ago
  Yes ! I worked on the Mobilize Duo (the Twizy successor, will be available soon) and it's revolutionary. I think it may be too much for French people, It's about establishing a new way of thinking. The car can't be purchased, only rented. It's very light and ONLY designed for urban trip. There is also a version for light local service !
gambiting 3y ago
We have a VW e-UP, that fits the bill perfectly, and I honestly like it more than our 400bhp Volvo. It fits everywhere, goes 150 miles on a charge, fits us both and a child seat, Costco shopping.......honestly that's the perfect city/mixed use EV. And if only weighs 1200kg.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  The e-UP is a nice little vehicle. We had an ICE one (the cheapest version) as a company runabout and it was ridiculously fuel efficient and light, the e- version wasn't for sale yet then but if it had been I'm pretty sure we would have bought one. And likely then we'd still have it today.