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Kinda ironic that you call this "racism against white" by subtly saying that non economically profitable neighbourhoods are non white. Those proposed changes a

Kinda ironic that you call this "racism against white" by subtly saying that non economically profitable neighbourhoods are non white. Those proposed changes are not racist, they are simply and blindly anti-poor.

leereeves 3y ago
GP isn't saying "non economically profitable neighbourhoods are non white." GP is saying that white non-economically-profitable neighbourhoods get no protection from that rule.
- spookybones 3y ago
  Doesn’t preventing discrimination based on income level cover that?
  - leereeves 3y ago
    Not always. For example, not when rural areas are excluded. Also not if, for example, an ISP decides to expand to a minority area instead of a white area because of DEI policies. In theory that should also be forbidden by the rule against racial discrimination, but in practice it's often not enforced that way.
    - vacuity 3y ago
      Would that people could be trusted to not discriminate in any way...maybe some subconscious personal bias, but then surely a group could even out the biases.
- klyrs 3y ago
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  - leereeves 3y ago
    Which should we do? Disallow discrimination against white people on the basis of race? Or dismiss discussion of such discrimination as "specious bullshit flogging the reverse racism trope"? I ask because those are diametrically opposed positions, and your second sentence illustrates why the first sometimes doesn't happen.
    - text0404 3y ago
      what are you talking about? this is about discriminating based on race, which includes the white race. your implicit assumption here is that anti-discrimination measures for minorities is discriminatory against white people. which is, uh, not a great take.
      - deleted 3y ago
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      - leereeves 3y ago
        > anti-discrimination measures for minorities is discriminatory against white people That is often the case because that's what "antiracists" admit and encourage: "The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination." To that, I say, no, adding more discrimination to the world does not remedy discrimination.

leereeves 3y ago

GP isn't saying "non economically profitable neighbourhoods are non white." GP is saying that white non-economically-profitable neighbourhoods get no protection from that rule.

spookybones 3y ago
Doesn’t preventing discrimination based on income level cover that?
- leereeves 3y ago
  Not always. For example, not when rural areas are excluded. Also not if, for example, an ISP decides to expand to a minority area instead of a white area because of DEI policies. In theory that should also be forbidden by the rule against racial discrimination, but in practice it's often not enforced that way.
  - vacuity 3y ago
    Would that people could be trusted to not discriminate in any way...maybe some subconscious personal bias, but then surely a group could even out the biases.
klyrs 3y ago
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- leereeves 3y ago
  Which should we do? Disallow discrimination against white people on the basis of race? Or dismiss discussion of such discrimination as "specious bullshit flogging the reverse racism trope"? I ask because those are diametrically opposed positions, and your second sentence illustrates why the first sometimes doesn't happen.
  - text0404 3y ago
    what are you talking about? this is about discriminating based on race, which includes the white race. your implicit assumption here is that anti-discrimination measures for minorities is discriminatory against white people. which is, uh, not a great take.
    - deleted 3y ago
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    - leereeves 3y ago
      > anti-discrimination measures for minorities is discriminatory against white people That is often the case because that's what "antiracists" admit and encourage: "The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination." To that, I say, no, adding more discrimination to the world does not remedy discrimination.