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You must agree that for almost every web-based product, designers and product managers can safely decide to completely ignore all people who have requirements l

You must agree that for almost every web-based product, designers and product managers can safely decide to completely ignore all people who have requirements like yours without it ever affecting their success.

CamperBob2 3y ago
Not only can they ignore such users, they have to.
- nonrandomstring 3y ago
  And yet here I am, the annoying fly in the ointment of your hypothesis, no?
  - CamperBob2 3y ago
    One thing I like about HN is that they make the same amount of money off of me whether I run JavaScript or not. I imagine we can agree there...
    - nonrandomstring 3y ago
      Oh indeed. What a wonderful training set this will make one day when it's sold. We'll be too sore to sit down in the morning, but right now at least we're getting a reach-around.
      - int_19h 3y ago
        Given that HN has a public API to export all the conversations nobody needs to wait for that day to make it into a training set. In fact, I would be extremely surprised if it hasn't already been trained on.
nonrandomstring 3y ago
Yes I absolutely do agree with that. Designers and product managers may completely ignore people like me, trample all over our needs and ignore us. Why would they care about the one percent. All good luck power to them and their values. But I am also not the least bit concerned with whether their products are a success or not. Why would I care if they do not? Yet I cannot concur that "almost every" site does. No, there are some that do. Moreover, those sites seem to self curate as being of very good quality. So I am happy that there are thoughtful, intelligent people out there who "get it". When they stop, so do I, and just move on. It's not personal and I'm not invested in them.
- foobiekr 3y ago
  It’s not 1%, more like 0.005%.
- thexumaker 3y ago
  You're not even 1%, maybe .000001%
- astrange 3y ago
  My experience running websites tells me that ignoring people like you is actually mandatory because they'll take up all your time and have opposite tastes of contributing users.
  - nonrandomstring 3y ago
    > people like you eeeeeeeewww! That's not a great look is it!? ^^^ delete button maybe? > have opposite tastes of contributing users. The people you exclude are unlike the contributing users.... yep no tautology there then :)

CamperBob2 3y ago

Not only can they ignore such users, they have to.

nonrandomstring 3y ago
And yet here I am, the annoying fly in the ointment of your hypothesis, no?
- CamperBob2 3y ago
  One thing I like about HN is that they make the same amount of money off of me whether I run JavaScript or not. I imagine we can agree there...
  - nonrandomstring 3y ago
    Oh indeed. What a wonderful training set this will make one day when it's sold. We'll be too sore to sit down in the morning, but right now at least we're getting a reach-around.
    - int_19h 3y ago
      Given that HN has a public API to export all the conversations nobody needs to wait for that day to make it into a training set. In fact, I would be extremely surprised if it hasn't already been trained on.

nonrandomstring 3y ago

Yes I absolutely do agree with that. Designers and product managers may completely ignore people like me, trample all over our needs and ignore us. Why would they care about the one percent. All good luck power to them and their values. But I am also not the least bit concerned with whether their products are a success or not. Why would I care if they do not? Yet I cannot concur that "almost every" site does. No, there are some that do. Moreover, those sites seem to self curate as being of very good quality. So I am happy that there are thoughtful, intelligent people out there who "get it". When they stop, so do I, and just move on. It's not personal and I'm not invested in them.

foobiekr 3y ago
It’s not 1%, more like 0.005%.
thexumaker 3y ago
You're not even 1%, maybe .000001%
astrange 3y ago
My experience running websites tells me that ignoring people like you is actually mandatory because they'll take up all your time and have opposite tastes of contributing users.
- nonrandomstring 3y ago
  > people like you eeeeeeeewww! That's not a great look is it!? ^^^ delete button maybe? > have opposite tastes of contributing users. The people you exclude are unlike the contributing users.... yep no tautology there then :)