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Your comments come off similar to a slave owner bragging about how many slaves they got at various stages and complaining about how ungrateful those slaves were

Your comments come off similar to a slave owner bragging about how many slaves they got at various stages and complaining about how ungrateful those slaves were to you. Completely forgetting the slave aspect that comes with murder, deportations, rape, lack of self determination or any other human rights. russophobia in this case is merely the dislike to being invaded and murdered by russians.

thriftwy 3y ago
The primary error in your reasoning is that you assume that I'm some kind of empowered slave holder. But that's not true. In fact, all of my ancestors that I know of are peasants, some of them serfdom peasants, most of them surely the Soviet XX century selfdom "kolkhoz peasants". So whatever the ethnic minorities there were in the Soviet Union and preceding Russian Empire, a) I don't owe them anything, b) I would suggest them to cry me a river, and c) I will be offended by any unfounded accusations towards Russians. As I have shown two answers below, my opponent cannot get his facts straight and is proud of it. Now, I don't know who are you and when you've checked your own privileges the last time. Maybe you had actual slave owners between your ancestors, and now spend time lecturing dumb Eastern Europeans how they should treat each other.
- jnsaff2 3y ago
  Ashamed of nothing, offended by everything.
  - thriftwy 3y ago
    My ancestors were the literal serfs - what the heck do I need to be ashamed of? Imagine a Russian-speaking dude in Ulyanovsk in 1985 bring told he should be ashamed of his treatment of another Russian-speaking dude in Kharkov. And on what account? The latter one has more opportunities, lives in slightly better climate and has slightly higher consumption standards. And that's all folks. These discussions make no sense. Sticking to the facts do, though.
    - jnsaff2 3y ago
      That dude in Kharkiv is now being actively murdered by russians. His opportunities are being destroyed by russians. You can’t disclaim responsibility if you don’t feel ashamed of it. You also forget that at home he might speak some other language besides the empire mandated russian.
      - thriftwy 3y ago
        So how is all that independence going? Did it pan out? Are they another France yet? I don't see how you can blame an ethnic group for anything and not feel ashamed, in 2024. Turns out, it's completely fine if the blamed ethnicity are Russians. So it is OK. Nothing to worry about.

thriftwy 3y ago

The primary error in your reasoning is that you assume that I'm some kind of empowered slave holder. But that's not true. In fact, all of my ancestors that I know of are peasants, some of them serfdom peasants, most of them surely the Soviet XX century selfdom "kolkhoz peasants". So whatever the ethnic minorities there were in the Soviet Union and preceding Russian Empire, a) I don't owe them anything, b) I would suggest them to cry me a river, and c) I will be offended by any unfounded accusations towards Russians. As I have shown two answers below, my opponent cannot get his facts straight and is proud of it. Now, I don't know who are you and when you've checked your own privileges the last time. Maybe you had actual slave owners between your ancestors, and now spend time lecturing dumb Eastern Europeans how they should treat each other.

jnsaff2 3y ago
Ashamed of nothing, offended by everything.
- thriftwy 3y ago
  My ancestors were the literal serfs - what the heck do I need to be ashamed of? Imagine a Russian-speaking dude in Ulyanovsk in 1985 bring told he should be ashamed of his treatment of another Russian-speaking dude in Kharkov. And on what account? The latter one has more opportunities, lives in slightly better climate and has slightly higher consumption standards. And that's all folks. These discussions make no sense. Sticking to the facts do, though.
  - jnsaff2 3y ago
    That dude in Kharkiv is now being actively murdered by russians. His opportunities are being destroyed by russians. You can’t disclaim responsibility if you don’t feel ashamed of it. You also forget that at home he might speak some other language besides the empire mandated russian.
    - thriftwy 3y ago
      So how is all that independence going? Did it pan out? Are they another France yet? I don't see how you can blame an ethnic group for anything and not feel ashamed, in 2024. Turns out, it's completely fine if the blamed ethnicity are Russians. So it is OK. Nothing to worry about.