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I'm more concerned about being forced into a crappy new UI which I don't want. If I wanted minimal I'd use VScode. They'll make it progressively more difficult

I'm more concerned about being forced into a crappy new UI which I don't want. If I wanted minimal I'd use VScode. They'll make it progressively more difficult to keep the actual IDE look with multiple windows, consoles etc since they'll realise the cost of supporting multiple UIs.

marginalia_nu 3y ago
You can disable the new UI though, and I doubt that will change. Hopefully they understand they'd lose a significant chunk of their userbase if they force the new UI onto their users. I think the median developer would rather use Eclipse over IntelliJ's new UI if those were the only options. It looks very pretty, but it's just such a pain in the ass to use. It takes an interface that is already so low-contrast and so hard to parse it's bordering on an accessibility problem, and makes all those regrettable design qualities a hundred times worse. The one good thing that's it does though is convincingly demonstrate the principle that design is primarily about how something functions, and not how it looks.
- Wytwwww 3y ago
  > You can disable the new UI though, and I doubt that will change They have been pretty vocal that long-term it will be removed and that it probably won't be included in the 2025 version. Of course hopefully they'll come to their senses but the experience will likely get worse and worse longarm even if they keep it... It's bizarre though. I mean I get that some people might prefer their new look due to various reasons but at that point why not just use VS code and save the $500+...
- smrtinsert 3y ago
  If they force me to use the new UI I'm gone, it's that simple. Either the new UI has window configuration parity or its over. I want every tab exactly where it is today (with the exception of the Structure tab which should be on the right by default)

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I'm more concerned about being forced into a crappy new UI which I don't want. If I wanted minimal I'd use VScode. They'll make it progressively more difficult

by nprateem 3y ago

marginalia_nu 3y ago
You can disable the new UI though, and I doubt that will change. Hopefully they understand they'd lose a significant chunk of their userbase if they force the new UI onto their users. I think the median developer would rather use Eclipse over IntelliJ's new UI if those were the only options. It looks very pretty, but it's just such a pain in the ass to use. It takes an interface that is already so low-contrast and so hard to parse it's bordering on an accessibility problem, and makes all those regrettable design qualities a hundred times worse. The one good thing that's it does though is convincingly demonstrate the principle that design is primarily about how something functions, and not how it looks.
- Wytwwww 3y ago
  > You can disable the new UI though, and I doubt that will change They have been pretty vocal that long-term it will be removed and that it probably won't be included in the 2025 version. Of course hopefully they'll come to their senses but the experience will likely get worse and worse longarm even if they keep it... It's bizarre though. I mean I get that some people might prefer their new look due to various reasons but at that point why not just use VS code and save the $500+...
- smrtinsert 3y ago
  If they force me to use the new UI I'm gone, it's that simple. Either the new UI has window configuration parity or its over. I want every tab exactly where it is today (with the exception of the Structure tab which should be on the right by default)