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How often does their IT fail? Outsourced to Crapita or Fooljitsu by any chance? With Google Docs/Office 365 the last time I lost a full document is years ago n

How often does their IT fail? Outsourced to Crapita or Fooljitsu by any chance? With Google Docs/Office 365 the last time I lost a full document is years ago now. I am old enough to have stored my laptop in the fridge when writing my PhD thesis, to keep the fault rate down. However, that is when hard drives where still mechanical, and online backups not a common thing.

6c696e7578 3y ago
I don't know, but offstead things might contain "incidents" with child names and whatnot. Google Docs may not comply with the standards needed. I think the bigger clouds have the security levels, but there may be costs involved. Don't know basically but it might be a deal breaker.
- oxfordmale 3y ago
  Yes, it is very likely Fooljitsu and Crapita consultants manage to convince them that existing systems do not comply with the relevant laws, and propose an in-house system. I have worked in software consultancy myself. The problem is that the project often starts with senior Engineers, who then gradually get moved to impress new clients, with the final product being delivered by overworked junior Engineers. Until the government gets better at overseeing such large projects, this will keep on happening. However, as governments not spending their own money, but tax payers money instead, there is little incentive.
- whimsicalism 3y ago
  This is where the law needs to confront with actual reality. The reality is that data leakage, incorrect access, etc. are all much more likely with a bespoke in-house product than with google docs, even if they haven’t bothered getting the cert needed.
  - 6c696e7578 3y ago
    Yes, but I think ownership is easier to prove when the product is inhouse, regardless of what reality is, if you can point at the thing that has the data in the room next door, that is easier to show than somewhere in cyber space. For that reason I think these bespoke solutions are not going anywhere for the foreseeable. In regards to the Post Office scandal, that same ballsup could happen in any cloud.
graemep 3y ago
I do not know about education, but there are rules for medical data. For example, with the NHS you have to use approved cloud providers and the medical data has to be stored in the UK. There is also might be functionality that is not part of Google Docs in terms of metadata on notes, who information is searchable etc.

6c696e7578 3y ago

I don't know, but offstead things might contain "incidents" with child names and whatnot. Google Docs may not comply with the standards needed. I think the bigger clouds have the security levels, but there may be costs involved. Don't know basically but it might be a deal breaker.

oxfordmale 3y ago
Yes, it is very likely Fooljitsu and Crapita consultants manage to convince them that existing systems do not comply with the relevant laws, and propose an in-house system. I have worked in software consultancy myself. The problem is that the project often starts with senior Engineers, who then gradually get moved to impress new clients, with the final product being delivered by overworked junior Engineers. Until the government gets better at overseeing such large projects, this will keep on happening. However, as governments not spending their own money, but tax payers money instead, there is little incentive.
whimsicalism 3y ago
This is where the law needs to confront with actual reality. The reality is that data leakage, incorrect access, etc. are all much more likely with a bespoke in-house product than with google docs, even if they haven’t bothered getting the cert needed.
- 6c696e7578 3y ago
  Yes, but I think ownership is easier to prove when the product is inhouse, regardless of what reality is, if you can point at the thing that has the data in the room next door, that is easier to show than somewhere in cyber space. For that reason I think these bespoke solutions are not going anywhere for the foreseeable. In regards to the Post Office scandal, that same ballsup could happen in any cloud.

graemep 3y ago

I do not know about education, but there are rules for medical data. For example, with the NHS you have to use approved cloud providers and the medical data has to be stored in the UK. There is also might be functionality that is not part of Google Docs in terms of metadata on notes, who information is searchable etc.