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A ban might be hard to word and implement, but a tax? Just tax the living hell out of it. Congress has access to more subtle and effective levers than an outrig
by EA-3167 3y ago
A ban might be hard to word and implement, but a tax? Just tax the living hell out of it. Congress has access to more subtle and effective levers than an outright ban.
- npoc 3y agoWho has the right to steal my property if I perform calculations on my computer that cause no harm to anyone? No one! How about a tax for computer gaming? Explain the difference.
- kelnos 3y ago> Who has the right to steal my property if I perform calculations on my computer that cause no harm to anyone? Did you read the article? Harm is definitely being caused.
- npoc 3y agoI assumed that person I replied to wanted to ban it due to the normal fallacies people perpetrate (that its a waste of energy and that people shouldn't be allowed to waste the energy they buy). Wanting to ban it because of an easily resolved incidence of noise disturbance would be even more insane than I usually expect.
- suid 3y agoYou could, instead, ration the amount of electricity that you can consume for an industrial facility (at least at "normal" or long-term negotiated rates). Every additional KwH needs to be purchased at spot rates. That will protect the conscientious consumers of electricity, and punish the profligate wasters (or encourage them to create their own sources of energy, preferably renewable).
- npoc 3y agoConscientious consumers of electricity are fundamentally protected because people have to pay for electricity. If you use a lot you have to spend a lot, if you use a little you don't. What gives someone the right to tell someone else what they must use the electricity they've bought for? The only right I can think of would be an indirect one - i.e. if their use of the electricity directly broke a law (e.g. they electrocuted someone)
- kelnos 3y ago> What gives someone the right to tell someone else what they must use the electricity they've bought for? Well, at its base, the law and force of government give people that right, just like any law we make gives anyone the right to tell someone else they can or can't do something. Electricity is a common resource. Spinning up new power plants is not cheap and has environmental impact. Overtaxing a grid not prepared for the added load causes all sorts of problems for residents. We write laws all the time to encourage behavior we want and discourage behavior we don't want. There's not reason why electricity use around Bitcoin mining should be exempt from that.
- philwelch 3y agoThis would affect not only crypto mining but also all datacenters, aluminum smelting, likely any modern or climate-neutral method of steel production, and manufacturing.
- OhMeadhbh 3y agoIt is extremely unlikely that Texas would pass such a tax. They've swallowed the "no tax is good" kool-aide (tm).
- dragonwriter 3y agoTexas has some of the highest property taxes in the country.
- dtornabene 3y agointerestingly enough I was at the county commissioners (I from this town) when this exact installation was originally debated precisely because the company was the recipent of a tax break and the court was doing its diligence on whether or not that was appropriate. I spoke against it at the time and am not surprised that other issues have come up since.