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I've never driven a tesla. I've also never had my steering wheel randomly stop working in the middle of driving. I can't help but think reality follows fictio

I've never driven a tesla. I've also never had my steering wheel randomly stop working in the middle of driving. I can't help but think reality follows fiction https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/car-balk/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/car-balk/ If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics: 1. For no reason at all, your car would crash twice a day. 2. Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you would have to buy a new car. 3. Occasionally, executing a manoeuver such as a left-turn would cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, and you would have to reinstall the engine. 4. When your car died on the freeway for no reason, you would just accept this, restart and drive on. 5. Only one person at a time could use the car, unless you bought 'Car95' or 'CarNT', and then added more seats. 6. Apple would make a car powered by the sun, reliable, five times as fast, and twice as easy to drive, but would run on only five per cent of the roads. 7. Oil, water temperature and alternator warning lights would be replaced by a single 'general car default' warning light. 8. New seats would force every-one to have the same size butt. 9. The airbag would say 'Are you sure?' before going off. 10. Occasionally, for no reason, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key, and grabbed the radio antenna. 11. GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe set of road maps from Rand-McNally (a subsidiary of GM), even though they neither need them nor want them. Trying to delete this option would immediately cause the car's performance to diminish by 50 per cent or more. Moreover, GM would become a target for investigation by the Justice Department. 12. Every time GM introduced a new model, car buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car. 13. You would press the 'start' button to shut off the engine.

nothercastle 3y ago
My coworker experienced #4 with his Teslas . Just randomly shut down while driving had to be rebooted
belltaco 3y ago
Power steering failures are relatively common, among companies that have been making cars for a century now. E.g. https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/gm-recalls-trucks-suvs-for-steering-problem/ https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/gm-recal... https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-recalls-defects/honda-civic-sedans-hatchbacks-recalled-for-steering-problem-a7538780192 https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-recalls-defects/hon... https://amarolawfirm.com/product-liability/vehicle-recalls/ford-steering-recall/ https://amarolawfirm.com/product-liability/vehicle-recalls/f... You only hear about this one because it's Tesla.
- clouddrover 3y ago
  > You only hear about this one because it's Tesla. So.. you're saying that power steering failures are common and then proceed to link to articles listing power steering related recalls. But then in the next breath you claim that we only hear about this one because it's Tesla. Seems a bit contradictory. If we didn't hear about recalls from other car companies, you wouldn't be able to link to examples of them. Your comment is an example of the "Tesla's just another car company like all the rest" line of defense offered up when there's bad news about Tesla.
  - hehhehaha 3y ago
    > If we didn't hear about recalls from other car companies, you wouldn't be able to link to examples of them. this is not it lol
  - belltaco 3y ago
    > But then in the next breath you claim that we only hear about this one because it's Tesla. "We" in this context is HN. Type 'recalls' in HN search and see how many Tesla vs non-Tesla recall news were popular on HN. > Of all the administration's recalls in 2023, Ford issued the most recalls (58 or 16% of all recalls issued), followed by Chrysler with 45, per NHTSA data. That includes either parts of vehicles or entire vehicles recalled, and also compliance concerns over emissions standards or environmental regulations, and software or technology glitches. > General Motors, Chrysler, BMW and Nissan all ranked in the top 10 most-impacted manufacturers, according to NHTSA. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2024/01/12/vehicle-manufactures-recalls-2023/72195820007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2024/01/12/vehicle... How many of the above recalls did we hear about on HN?
    - clouddrover 3y ago
      Here's one on Hacker News about a Toyota recall from 3 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39191931 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39191931 Maybe look around a bit. Broaden your horizons. Seek out a bigger perspective than only what you see on Hacker News. You seem to have narrowed yourself much too much.
Vegenoid 3y ago
> 13. You would press the 'start' button to shut off the engine. Is this not how pretty much all modern cars work?(that use push-button ignition, which I think is almost all of them?) It’s how my 2010 Toyota works - if the engine is off, and I press the button (while foot is on the brake) the engine starts. If I push the button while the engine is running, it turns off. This seems like sensible behavior to me
wolverine876 3y ago
It's a joke, but modern SV has embraced the absurdity. I suppose Microsoft embraced it back then (the 1990s?), in a way, but I guess I assume that the software industry was just immature back then and hadn't developed effective engineering.

nothercastle 3y ago

My coworker experienced #4 with his Teslas . Just randomly shut down while driving had to be rebooted

belltaco 3y ago

Power steering failures are relatively common, among companies that have been making cars for a century now. E.g. https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/gm-recalls-trucks-suvs-for-steering-problem/ https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/gm-recal... https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-recalls-defects/honda-civic-sedans-hatchbacks-recalled-for-steering-problem-a7538780192 https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-recalls-defects/hon... https://amarolawfirm.com/product-liability/vehicle-recalls/ford-steering-recall/ https://amarolawfirm.com/product-liability/vehicle-recalls/f... You only hear about this one because it's Tesla.

clouddrover 3y ago
> You only hear about this one because it's Tesla. So.. you're saying that power steering failures are common and then proceed to link to articles listing power steering related recalls. But then in the next breath you claim that we only hear about this one because it's Tesla. Seems a bit contradictory. If we didn't hear about recalls from other car companies, you wouldn't be able to link to examples of them. Your comment is an example of the "Tesla's just another car company like all the rest" line of defense offered up when there's bad news about Tesla.
- hehhehaha 3y ago
  > If we didn't hear about recalls from other car companies, you wouldn't be able to link to examples of them. this is not it lol
- belltaco 3y ago
  > But then in the next breath you claim that we only hear about this one because it's Tesla. "We" in this context is HN. Type 'recalls' in HN search and see how many Tesla vs non-Tesla recall news were popular on HN. > Of all the administration's recalls in 2023, Ford issued the most recalls (58 or 16% of all recalls issued), followed by Chrysler with 45, per NHTSA data. That includes either parts of vehicles or entire vehicles recalled, and also compliance concerns over emissions standards or environmental regulations, and software or technology glitches. > General Motors, Chrysler, BMW and Nissan all ranked in the top 10 most-impacted manufacturers, according to NHTSA. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2024/01/12/vehicle-manufactures-recalls-2023/72195820007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2024/01/12/vehicle... How many of the above recalls did we hear about on HN?
  - clouddrover 3y ago
    Here's one on Hacker News about a Toyota recall from 3 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39191931 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39191931 Maybe look around a bit. Broaden your horizons. Seek out a bigger perspective than only what you see on Hacker News. You seem to have narrowed yourself much too much.

Vegenoid 3y ago

> 13. You would press the 'start' button to shut off the engine. Is this not how pretty much all modern cars work?(that use push-button ignition, which I think is almost all of them?) It’s how my 2010 Toyota works - if the engine is off, and I press the button (while foot is on the brake) the engine starts. If I push the button while the engine is running, it turns off. This seems like sensible behavior to me

wolverine876 3y ago

It's a joke, but modern SV has embraced the absurdity. I suppose Microsoft embraced it back then (the 1990s?), in a way, but I guess I assume that the software industry was just immature back then and hadn't developed effective engineering.