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Can we just get to the point and admit the world, all countries are corrupt and that evil is the entity that's in control? You can no longer trust anything or

Can we just get to the point and admit the world, all countries are corrupt and that evil is the entity that's in control? You can no longer trust anything or anyone. If you speak out your shot, reprimanded or gagged. Regardless to who owns who's data it will always be misused, abused or used for something. And as data is now a commodity that can be sold to anyone and the sci-fi dystopian future is already one. There is no freedom nor freedom to speech, with the ability that we can reach space on a commercial level with satellites, fear for the worse. The internet is a failure. It brings usefulness but sure isn't used for it; not anymore at least. Prove me wrong, but with the masses lapping up social media, you'll going to have a hard time proving it. My two cents.

sirspacey 3y ago
Ok let’s say we agree with you. Now what?
- doublerabbit 3y ago
  From a political side of things, not much. So lets ignore that but move forward from an internet point of view. Take the concept that the data you own is when you own the devices where the data is held. A good example is cloud vs colocation. If your leasing services from a cloud provider, the data is not yours. You don't own the hardware, you don't own the storage. While you may store user data it's still not yours. You just have it in your possession; you own nothing within the Cloud. This is why I love co-location, heavily influenced by, keeps my sanity; as it allows me to keep control. So lets take simple data view: a web servers access.log. If you were to access my website, the data that is recorded is Web Browser, IP, and User Agent. It's not provisional, nor owned by another third-party company. The third-party service (evil: amazon, google or whoever) can demand you to hand over the data regardless or shut off your service. No one can request that from me unless you file a proper request which I can than fight. As I own the hardware, I own the hard-drives, I own the switches that are connected to my server and you could say that the data is in transit is not mine. True, it is only mine once it's processed and stored upon my server but that enables me to do what I wish, ethically, or non. In that scenario, your data is owned by two parties - Me and your ISP. So how do you break free from this? Encryption? Still a commodity, it may be secured by X cipher, but it's still data. Still a commodity. "Hey, got any encrypted data for sale?" .. sure you may never be able to decrypt but you've got the data which could potentially lead to a password or just pointless meta. Who knows, I still bought and now own a copy of your data. Mesh networking is the of the few ways forward. And that, one example I mean is connecting to your neighbours network. We can all pick up WiFi networks of our neighbours. Now imagine where if you could connect to your neighbours, neigbours-neighbours network free and that every single neighbour WiFi network hosted a service that you could host at home? From a laptop, to a super-computer in your jacuzzi -- Not only is data than yours, it's also theirs, isn't owned by your ISP's, evil entity I would call. However, there is a lot more to it than what I have posted but I hope it paints the viewpoint that I see. A theory at least. Overall, it's ironic really. We all pay for the same ISP, mass use the same router they provide and then we all segment them off so "no one else" can use it. Yet if everyone enabled each other network with QoS you could have an whole new internet hosting services owned only by yourself without ISP control. If you bought a WiFi router that's not leased by your ISP; your free. All because you own the hardware. WiFi is now so potent you wouldn't even need a ISP. Why do you think ISP's make it difficult host services at home?

sirspacey 3y ago

Ok let’s say we agree with you. Now what?

doublerabbit 3y ago
From a political side of things, not much. So lets ignore that but move forward from an internet point of view. Take the concept that the data you own is when you own the devices where the data is held. A good example is cloud vs colocation. If your leasing services from a cloud provider, the data is not yours. You don't own the hardware, you don't own the storage. While you may store user data it's still not yours. You just have it in your possession; you own nothing within the Cloud. This is why I love co-location, heavily influenced by, keeps my sanity; as it allows me to keep control. So lets take simple data view: a web servers access.log. If you were to access my website, the data that is recorded is Web Browser, IP, and User Agent. It's not provisional, nor owned by another third-party company. The third-party service (evil: amazon, google or whoever) can demand you to hand over the data regardless or shut off your service. No one can request that from me unless you file a proper request which I can than fight. As I own the hardware, I own the hard-drives, I own the switches that are connected to my server and you could say that the data is in transit is not mine. True, it is only mine once it's processed and stored upon my server but that enables me to do what I wish, ethically, or non. In that scenario, your data is owned by two parties - Me and your ISP. So how do you break free from this? Encryption? Still a commodity, it may be secured by X cipher, but it's still data. Still a commodity. "Hey, got any encrypted data for sale?" .. sure you may never be able to decrypt but you've got the data which could potentially lead to a password or just pointless meta. Who knows, I still bought and now own a copy of your data. Mesh networking is the of the few ways forward. And that, one example I mean is connecting to your neighbours network. We can all pick up WiFi networks of our neighbours. Now imagine where if you could connect to your neighbours, neigbours-neighbours network free and that every single neighbour WiFi network hosted a service that you could host at home? From a laptop, to a super-computer in your jacuzzi -- Not only is data than yours, it's also theirs, isn't owned by your ISP's, evil entity I would call. However, there is a lot more to it than what I have posted but I hope it paints the viewpoint that I see. A theory at least. Overall, it's ironic really. We all pay for the same ISP, mass use the same router they provide and then we all segment them off so "no one else" can use it. Yet if everyone enabled each other network with QoS you could have an whole new internet hosting services owned only by yourself without ISP control. If you bought a WiFi router that's not leased by your ISP; your free. All because you own the hardware. WiFi is now so potent you wouldn't even need a ISP. Why do you think ISP's make it difficult host services at home?