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The entire thing is just sad. Entire generations of people whose lives are so intimately defined by the corporate grind that they lose meaning when it is taken

by paxys 3y ago

The entire thing is just sad. Entire generations of people whose lives are so intimately defined by the corporate grind that they lose meaning when it is taken away. Imagine having the time, money and health to be with your loved ones, pursue your passions, travel the world, or really set any goal you want for the remaining decades of your life, but feeling empty because there are no meetings on your calendar, no OKRs to hit and no bosses to answer to. I have no doubt that such people exist in great numbers, especially in America, but it's about time we start to treat it not as an aspiration but rather a disease to be treated.

sk11001 3y ago
> be with your loved ones, pursue your passions, travel the world, or really set any goal you want for the remaining decades of your life They are pursuing their passions and setting any goal they want. I don't get why so many people in this thread are dismissive of different views. > feeling empty because there are no meetings on your calendar, no OKRs to hit and no bosses to answer to This isn't the part that people miss when they stop working. You can at least try to argue in good faith.
- coldpie 3y ago
  > I don't get why so many people in this thread are dismissive of different views. It's probably because the title is a command: "Never Retire." Nah, I think I will, thanks.
  - sk11001 3y ago
    The edited HN title is a command, not the original title of the article.
    - coldpie 3y ago
      Fair enough, but I think that choice is framing the discussion here.
    - skmurphy 3y ago
      The actual title is "Why you should never retire" which frames it as a suggestion not an imperative.
- riku_iki 3y ago
  > They are pursuing their passions and setting any goal they want. you don't have aggregated metric how many people have energy and time after hours of for-paycheck-and-med-insurance job to pursue passions and goals now days.
jstarfish 3y ago
I hate working as much as anyone else but the problem is disruption of routine. People don't handle infinite freedom very well either. Thus, HOAs are dominated by retirees. It gives them a new routine (with a side order of authority), through which they promptly impose their outdated ideas on everyone else. The flip side of this are the hedonists who buy an RV and tour every swinger venue across America. Even this "freedom" establishes a routine-- usually involving driving, partying, finding an urgent care clinic for more Doxycyclene, and repeating until death/disability. My grandmother was neither an HOA Nazi nor a swinger. She watched TV until she got Alzheimer's and spent her final decade dismantling every bathroom fixture she encountered. Even in extreme mental illness, we seek routine.

by paxys 3y ago

sk11001 3y ago

> be with your loved ones, pursue your passions, travel the world, or really set any goal you want for the remaining decades of your life They are pursuing their passions and setting any goal they want. I don't get why so many people in this thread are dismissive of different views. > feeling empty because there are no meetings on your calendar, no OKRs to hit and no bosses to answer to This isn't the part that people miss when they stop working. You can at least try to argue in good faith.

coldpie 3y ago
> I don't get why so many people in this thread are dismissive of different views. It's probably because the title is a command: "Never Retire." Nah, I think I will, thanks.
- sk11001 3y ago
  The edited HN title is a command, not the original title of the article.
  - coldpie 3y ago
    Fair enough, but I think that choice is framing the discussion here.
  - skmurphy 3y ago
    The actual title is "Why you should never retire" which frames it as a suggestion not an imperative.
riku_iki 3y ago
> They are pursuing their passions and setting any goal they want. you don't have aggregated metric how many people have energy and time after hours of for-paycheck-and-med-insurance job to pursue passions and goals now days.

jstarfish 3y ago

I hate working as much as anyone else but the problem is disruption of routine. People don't handle infinite freedom very well either. Thus, HOAs are dominated by retirees. It gives them a new routine (with a side order of authority), through which they promptly impose their outdated ideas on everyone else. The flip side of this are the hedonists who buy an RV and tour every swinger venue across America. Even this "freedom" establishes a routine-- usually involving driving, partying, finding an urgent care clinic for more Doxycyclene, and repeating until death/disability. My grandmother was neither an HOA Nazi nor a swinger. She watched TV until she got Alzheimer's and spent her final decade dismantling every bathroom fixture she encountered. Even in extreme mental illness, we seek routine.