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Time to stop subsidizing their shipping.

nickthegreek 3y ago
For those who don't know what this is referencing: https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/key-trade-loophole-keeps-cheap-chinese-products-flowing-us-2023-08-04/ https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/key-trade-l...
ThrowawayTestr 3y ago
The Chinese stopped subsiding shipping a while ago, it's why you have to actually pay for shipping on aliexpress now.
- RankingMember 3y ago
  I bought something on AliExpress recently and they seem to have changed things up so that there's a second shipping option called "Choice" that only certain items apply to. I'm not sure if they've started putting high-popularity items in stateside distribution centers or what, but they ship these items for free with a $10 minimum order.
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alwa 3y ago
Are you referring to the USPS’ ePacket service, which subsidizes small packages from Hong Kong and China to the extent that it’s cheaper to ship from there than to ship domestically? E.g. per [0]: > As Amazon’s Vice President of Global Policy Paul Misener pointed out: > “The cost to ship a one-pound package from South Carolina to New York City would run nearly $6; from Beijing to NYC: $3.66.” > While sending that same one-pound package from New York City back to Beijing via USPS International Mail would cost in the ballpark of $50. [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2017/11/05/how-the-usps-epacket-gives-postal-subsidies-to-chinese-e-commerce-merchants-to-ship-to-the-usa-cheap/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2017/11/05/how-the-...
- siruncledrew 3y ago
  Mass shippers like Aliexpress already stopped using ePacket. Ali has their own Cainiao. The big companies realized if they do the Amazon model and build their own logistics network for cross-Pacific sea/air freight, the long-term savings are huge. Even within the US, Amazon already has planes, trains, and automobiles. Why pay USPS and be at the mercy of government bureaucracy when you own your own integrated logistics stack.

For those who don't know what this is referencing: https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/key-trade-loophole-keeps-cheap-chinese-products-flowing-us-2023-08-04/ https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/key-trade-l...

ThrowawayTestr 3y ago

The Chinese stopped subsiding shipping a while ago, it's why you have to actually pay for shipping on aliexpress now.

RankingMember 3y ago
I bought something on AliExpress recently and they seem to have changed things up so that there's a second shipping option called "Choice" that only certain items apply to. I'm not sure if they've started putting high-popularity items in stateside distribution centers or what, but they ship these items for free with a $10 minimum order.
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alwa 3y ago

Are you referring to the USPS’ ePacket service, which subsidizes small packages from Hong Kong and China to the extent that it’s cheaper to ship from there than to ship domestically? E.g. per [0]: > As Amazon’s Vice President of Global Policy Paul Misener pointed out: > “The cost to ship a one-pound package from South Carolina to New York City would run nearly $6; from Beijing to NYC: $3.66.” > While sending that same one-pound package from New York City back to Beijing via USPS International Mail would cost in the ballpark of $50. [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2017/11/05/how-the-usps-epacket-gives-postal-subsidies-to-chinese-e-commerce-merchants-to-ship-to-the-usa-cheap/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2017/11/05/how-the-...

siruncledrew 3y ago
Mass shippers like Aliexpress already stopped using ePacket. Ali has their own Cainiao. The big companies realized if they do the Amazon model and build their own logistics network for cross-Pacific sea/air freight, the long-term savings are huge. Even within the US, Amazon already has planes, trains, and automobiles. Why pay USPS and be at the mercy of government bureaucracy when you own your own integrated logistics stack.