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> Who's this magical "we", who's supposed to teach parenting? Schools? The same "magical" we who teach math, for example. I haven't been in school for a long

by lapcat 3y ago

> Who's this magical "we", who's supposed to teach parenting? Schools? The same "magical" we who teach math, for example. I haven't been in school for a long time, but back in the day we had home ec and shop classes. I even took a typing class in high school, which turned out to be quite useful. We can teach kids practical life skills.

readthenotes1 3y ago
"teach math so effectively".
r0ckarong 3y ago
Schools are already notoriously failing children and their individual needs. Parenting decided by committee that needs to be comparable to retain budgets. Oh my word, sounds like hell.
- lapcat 3y ago
  > Schools are already notoriously failing children and their individual needs. That's an overgeneralization. Schools vary widely in quality. Some schools have excellent results.
  - u32480932048 3y ago
    Source?
  - deleted 3y ago
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ejb999 3y ago
I doubt it - many schools can't even get 50% of the students proficient in math and english - I sure as heck don't want those schools teaching parenting skills as well.
- lapcat 3y ago
  Do you suggest that we abolish the teaching of math and english entirely, because some schools have issues (which are largely correlated with economically disadvantaged neighborhoods)? Should we shut down all the schools? I don't really understand how the nihilism in these replies makes any sense.
  - simonsarris 3y ago
    > because some schools have issues (which are largely correlated with economically disadvantaged neighborhoods)? I don't you understand just how bad things are. Nationally 29% of 8th graders score "proficient or higher" in reading, 26% in math. The median American student is doing far worse than you think.
    - lapcat 3y ago
      Bogus, fearmongering stats, based on unrealistic ideals: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/a-test-everyone-will-fail_b_47607 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/a-test-everyone-will-fail_b_4... Tell me how the US students compare to all of the other industrialized nations. And again, I ask, what would you suggest? You seem to be suggesting we shouldn't be teaching parents skills in schools, because schools are allegedly no good, but isn't that also an (absurd) argument that we shouldn't be teaching anything in schools?
  - ejb999 3y ago
    Do you suggest when you have a employee that is failing at the projects you have already given them, to load 2 or 3 more projects on top of that and somehow hope that will make things better?
    - lapcat 3y ago
      > Do you suggest when you have a employee that is failing at the projects you have already given them I don't accept the "failing" narrative. I think it's bogus. You still haven't said what you'd do, though. Wouldn't you fire a failing employee? By analogy, wouldn't you shut down all schools?

by lapcat 3y ago

readthenotes1 3y ago

"teach math so effectively".

r0ckarong 3y ago

Schools are already notoriously failing children and their individual needs. Parenting decided by committee that needs to be comparable to retain budgets. Oh my word, sounds like hell.

lapcat 3y ago
> Schools are already notoriously failing children and their individual needs. That's an overgeneralization. Schools vary widely in quality. Some schools have excellent results.
- u32480932048 3y ago
  Source?
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]

ejb999 3y ago

I doubt it - many schools can't even get 50% of the students proficient in math and english - I sure as heck don't want those schools teaching parenting skills as well.

lapcat 3y ago
Do you suggest that we abolish the teaching of math and english entirely, because some schools have issues (which are largely correlated with economically disadvantaged neighborhoods)? Should we shut down all the schools? I don't really understand how the nihilism in these replies makes any sense.
- simonsarris 3y ago
  > because some schools have issues (which are largely correlated with economically disadvantaged neighborhoods)? I don't you understand just how bad things are. Nationally 29% of 8th graders score "proficient or higher" in reading, 26% in math. The median American student is doing far worse than you think.
  - lapcat 3y ago
    Bogus, fearmongering stats, based on unrealistic ideals: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/a-test-everyone-will-fail_b_47607 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/a-test-everyone-will-fail_b_4... Tell me how the US students compare to all of the other industrialized nations. And again, I ask, what would you suggest? You seem to be suggesting we shouldn't be teaching parents skills in schools, because schools are allegedly no good, but isn't that also an (absurd) argument that we shouldn't be teaching anything in schools?
- ejb999 3y ago
  Do you suggest when you have a employee that is failing at the projects you have already given them, to load 2 or 3 more projects on top of that and somehow hope that will make things better?
  - lapcat 3y ago
    > Do you suggest when you have a employee that is failing at the projects you have already given them I don't accept the "failing" narrative. I think it's bogus. You still haven't said what you'd do, though. Wouldn't you fire a failing employee? By analogy, wouldn't you shut down all schools?