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If you did it right, your tool or service will exist for decades to come, if you have the option to not call it something fsck, fwkc, fck, etc. it's worth exerc
by TheRealPomax 3y ago
If you did it right, your tool or service will exist for decades to come, if you have the option to not call it something fsck, fwkc, fck, etc. it's worth exercising that option.
- ianlevesque 3y agoOn the other hand, this is your chance to name it fsck, fwkc, fck. It'll be harder to rename later.
- OkayPhysicist 3y agoIf you're too stuck up to appreciate a funny pun, don't use the software. No one's holding a gun to your head. Or you could relax, not everything needs to be "serious business".
- wruza 3y agoNo one's holding a gun to your head Good luck explaining a less-techy client at your job that fck-nat, fsck (which was originally just "fuck", afaik) and so on are fine puns and no one's holding a gun to their head either. I feel similar about recursive acronyms. These are funny-ish when you're in your mom jokes phase, but then someone asks you what that means and sometimes you can see their "what a bunch of creeps" reaction when you try to explain. Not surprising that people try to avoid that "we can use FCK for our SHT instances in CRP network" nonsense.
- isityouyesitsme 3y agoWhile not really being one who cares personally about the example here, I would not give a tool a name that I full well know will offend the sensibilities of some who will use it. That would make me a jerk, no matter how funny or whimsical I may find it. Even when poking fun at myself, I choose names of projects carefully. It's pretty easy to not be a jerk, at least in this way.
- gosub100 3y agoWould you be ok if this tool was named sensibly, but was developed in brainfuck?
- isityouyesitsme 3y agoWell, what I'm not ok doing is arguing silly points steeped in what-about-isms. There are far more entertaining ways to waste time.
- diggan 3y ago> I full well know will offend the sensibilities of some who will use it How could you possibly know this, where do you draw the line? For something people, "Hacker News" is surely offensive because "hacker" is generally thought of as a negative term (Yes, I know our meaning, others generally don't). GitHub could also be offensive to some, "git" after all is as much of a swear-word as "fck".
- gosub100 3y agoAn early-90s textbook I read about encryption said that some people were disgusted hearing the word 'decrypt' for the first time because a crypt is a place where dead bodies were stored. They suggested (to those offended) to use the word cipher instead ;)
- isityouyesitsme 3y agoThe context is that I replied to a comment where one knows.
- Retr0id 3y agoSometimes keeping "serious" people away from your project is a feature, not a bug.
- TheRealPomax 3y agoThanks, I'll let fsck know.
- 83457 3y agoIt will probably be changed to "ck-nat" eventually.
- SkyMarshal 3y agoTechnically it should be cc-nat. This fck acronym seems like someone is trying a little too hard to twist it into something edgy.
- 83457 3y agoWas looking for someone to get the fckeditor > ckeditor reference.
- Symbiote 3y agoIt worked out OK for Git, which means slightly malicious idiot in Britain and Ireland. (Linus was supposedly well aware of the meaning when he chose it.)
- diggan 3y agoSupposedly, Linus named Git after himself, just like with Linux. According to the legends at least.
- suprjami 3y agoThere's a bit of a difference between "cranky old person" and one letter away from "fuck".
- pwagland 3y agoIt really depends on what country you are in. In many countries c*nt is one of the more terrible swearwords could imagine. In Ireland it's friendly banter. d*ckhead can be either a term of endearment amongst (close) friends, or an insult in Australia, and worse in other countries. In many, if not most, non American countries, f*ck just doesn't cut the mustard when swearing. Heck, in the UK, they have a major high street brand called FCUK.
- sonicanatidae 3y agohttps://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/028/596/dsmGaKWMeHXe9QuJtq_ys30PNfTGnMsRuHuo_MUzGCg.jpg https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/028/596/dsm...
- TehCorwiz 3y agoThe name of 'Git' (the source control system) is literally a derogatory term. I think you overestimate the value or prevalence of decorum. you should also google the relationship between the number of uses of the word "fuck" in code comments with code quality. There's been several papers on it. EDIT: Here: https://cme.h-its.org/exelixis/pubs/JanThesis.pdf https://cme.h-its.org/exelixis/pubs/JanThesis.pdf
- TheRealPomax 3y agoThe actual fsck command predates git by a lot of years. And they're both still incredibly stupid names.
- shzhdbi09gv8ioi 3y ago> fsck = filesystem check please stop being this thin skinned
- wruza 3y agohttps://hachyderm.io/@robpike/111593487329402102 https://hachyderm.io/@robpike/111593487329402102
- shzhdbi09gv8ioi 3y agoSo, the link that was shared by robpike, from 2006 lays it out like this: > First, let's review what fsck, or the File System ChecK program, actually does. Again, stop being this amount of thin skinned, it is rather ridiculous.
- wruza 3y agoI am not, I just don’t get why some people are so profanity oriented in naming things. Personally, it doesn’t offend me, but it ridicules them in my eyes, and stops me from talking about it around people. If that’s what they want, okay. If that’s not what they want, they can use this subthread as a feedback. How would they know if no one spoke? Also, I find your reaction thin skinned-ish as well. Why throw stop commands if you ought to not care? Cause it’s ridiculous? Well, we have more in common than you think then.
- shzhdbi09gv8ioi 3y ago> Also, I find your reaction thin skinned-ish as well. Why throw stop commands if you ought to not care? Oh really. You're the one who can't shut up about some app that used to be named f*ck but was renamed some 30+ years ago still grinds your gears. It's an (ancient) light hearted joke, please just drop it. I care about the state of the world, and I find it deeply depressing people run around being prude like we're some kind of Christian middle ages society.
- TheRealPomax 3y ago