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That is why they made Wago lever nuts

dylan604 3y ago
Being unfamiliar with this, I had to look it up[0]. While these look interesting, I can't imagine where I'd use them. They are HUGE. Like bigger than that even. I can't imagine unbolting the side panels of a satellite in space, being able to use one of these, and then it being able to fit back into the original position. [0] https://www.wago.com/us/discover-wire-and-splicing-connectors https://www.wago.com/us/discover-wire-and-splicing-connector...
- verisimilitude 3y ago
  They're _excellent_ for wiring devices into junction boxes in construction; particularly when connecting the higher gauge luminaire wires of an overhead light to romex. For some reason they're polarizing among electricians in the US (they carry all necessary listings for use in the US...). By contrast, they're widely accepted and used elsewhere.
  - quickthrowman 3y ago
    > For some reason they're polarizing among electricians in the US They’re 8x more expensive and take longer to install than a wire nut, and they take up more space inside the device box. They’re also difficult to unterminate without damaging the lever nut or conductor. It’s not hard to splice #14 solid to #18 stranded with a wire nut, you just extend the smaller wire a bit beyond the end of the larger wire and twist. I’d recommend wago lever nuts to homeowners doing their own electrical work because homeowners are terrible at electrical work and the less chances for electrical fires, the better. I’m a commercial electrical project manager in the US.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    > they're polarizing among electricians in the US sounds like it needs a ground! /s but seriously, what kind of junction boxes are used outside the US that these would fit? as far as connecting a larger device wire to a smaller mains line seems odd to me. granted, i'm not an electrician, but it is pretty much opposite of all of my experiences with wiring commercial lighting and home lighting
- mikeyouse 3y ago
  I use them almost exclusively in my home wiring - they're so much more user friendly compared to wire nuts. They are not large at all - I find wiring that these take a lot less space in tight boxes than a wire nut since they're flat and you can push them to the back more easily: https://imgur.com/a/tGTUJd9 https://imgur.com/a/tGTUJd9 They make stab Wagos as well which I don't recommend, but the lever ones are great. You can work 'hot' if you need to replace a switch or anything (don't work hot blah blah blah). Much of my existing wiring is crappy 50s era copper and in some areas, aluminum -- so to add GFCIs where useful, I use either the levers to join copper of shitty provenance or the ALCU junction connectors and a bit of the paste.

Being unfamiliar with this, I had to look it up[0]. While these look interesting, I can't imagine where I'd use them. They are HUGE. Like bigger than that even. I can't imagine unbolting the side panels of a satellite in space, being able to use one of these, and then it being able to fit back into the original position. [0] https://www.wago.com/us/discover-wire-and-splicing-connectors https://www.wago.com/us/discover-wire-and-splicing-connector...

verisimilitude 3y ago
They're _excellent_ for wiring devices into junction boxes in construction; particularly when connecting the higher gauge luminaire wires of an overhead light to romex. For some reason they're polarizing among electricians in the US (they carry all necessary listings for use in the US...). By contrast, they're widely accepted and used elsewhere.
- quickthrowman 3y ago
  > For some reason they're polarizing among electricians in the US They’re 8x more expensive and take longer to install than a wire nut, and they take up more space inside the device box. They’re also difficult to unterminate without damaging the lever nut or conductor. It’s not hard to splice #14 solid to #18 stranded with a wire nut, you just extend the smaller wire a bit beyond the end of the larger wire and twist. I’d recommend wago lever nuts to homeowners doing their own electrical work because homeowners are terrible at electrical work and the less chances for electrical fires, the better. I’m a commercial electrical project manager in the US.
- dylan604 3y ago
  > they're polarizing among electricians in the US sounds like it needs a ground! /s but seriously, what kind of junction boxes are used outside the US that these would fit? as far as connecting a larger device wire to a smaller mains line seems odd to me. granted, i'm not an electrician, but it is pretty much opposite of all of my experiences with wiring commercial lighting and home lighting
mikeyouse 3y ago
I use them almost exclusively in my home wiring - they're so much more user friendly compared to wire nuts. They are not large at all - I find wiring that these take a lot less space in tight boxes than a wire nut since they're flat and you can push them to the back more easily: https://imgur.com/a/tGTUJd9 https://imgur.com/a/tGTUJd9 They make stab Wagos as well which I don't recommend, but the lever ones are great. You can work 'hot' if you need to replace a switch or anything (don't work hot blah blah blah). Much of my existing wiring is crappy 50s era copper and in some areas, aluminum -- so to add GFCIs where useful, I use either the levers to join copper of shitty provenance or the ALCU junction connectors and a bit of the paste.