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> The assumption is that a Story cannot go from the top 30 to a position higher than 90 in a single minute, without having been explicitly removed. I'm not sur

> The assumption is that a Story cannot go from the top 30 to a position higher than 90 in a single minute, without having been explicitly removed. I'm not sure this is a valid assumption. https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=39094387 https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=39094387 looks to be a story that dropped to the thirties pretty quickly. Maybe due to other suddenly popular content? Looking at the 13 stories listed for Monday, January 22, 2024 only 3 seem to have been removed from HN. The other 10 stories still exist. The HP story, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39087776 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39087776, was likely kicked from the front page due to being a duplicate of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39060793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39060793 The Ford story, https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=39089599 https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=39089599, seems to be incorrectly detected. Honestly only 3 or 4 out of 13 look like possible moderation to me. And they don't seem bad. Does a story about razor wire in Texas belong on hacker news? I'm in Texas so the story is of interest to me but I'd expect to hear about it elsewhere, not on HN. Overall it just makes me think HN is doing a good job at moderation.

wolverine876 3y ago
> Does a story about razor wire in Texas belong on hacker news? I'm in Texas so the story is of interest to me but I'd expect to hear about it elsewhere, not on HN. Perhaps in TX you don't realize it, but it's a big national story, implicating the Constitution, federal authority, even the Civil War. It's political, for sure; but it's not local.
- Macha 3y ago
  HN is present in more than just the US
dang 3y ago
It's not a valid assumption. I'd better post about this at the top level: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39231537 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39231537.
s1artibartfast 3y ago
I dont understand what "explicit" means here. If it gets algorithmically deranked for user flags, but but not hidden, is that explicit? I assume "explicit" means manual moderator intervention, but I don't really see anything that suggests that.
- cubefox 3y ago
  > I assume "explicit" means manual moderator intervention, but I don't really see anything that suggests that Because there is no visible indication when moderator intervention happens. It doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

wolverine876 3y ago

> Does a story about razor wire in Texas belong on hacker news? I'm in Texas so the story is of interest to me but I'd expect to hear about it elsewhere, not on HN. Perhaps in TX you don't realize it, but it's a big national story, implicating the Constitution, federal authority, even the Civil War. It's political, for sure; but it's not local.

Macha 3y ago
HN is present in more than just the US

dang 3y ago

It's not a valid assumption. I'd better post about this at the top level: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39231537 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39231537.

s1artibartfast 3y ago

I dont understand what "explicit" means here. If it gets algorithmically deranked for user flags, but but not hidden, is that explicit? I assume "explicit" means manual moderator intervention, but I don't really see anything that suggests that.

cubefox 3y ago
> I assume "explicit" means manual moderator intervention, but I don't really see anything that suggests that Because there is no visible indication when moderator intervention happens. It doesn't mean it doesn't happen.