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How do you suggest we pay journalist? They certainty shouldn't work for free.

thejohnconway 3y ago
Non-profit organisations. Large and small foundations and charities. This is not a solution, I don’t know how to get there, but I think it would get better results.
- SAI_Peregrinus 3y ago
  E.g. Pro Publica. It gets pretty good results, for its niche (investigative journalism, focused primarily on institutional corruption).
65 3y ago
Either form journalist orgs as non-profits (e.g NPR) or modernize journalism content (e.g Morning Brew). The traditional print news model is getting increasingly out of date and it's going to take a bunch of old geezers dying to modernize journalism. It's still "content", and news outlets need to keep up with changing consumer tastes.
- BadHumans 3y ago
  What do you mean by modernize? Is being funded by ads modernizing in your eyes because that is how Morning Brew makes their money. If that's how you look at it then you'll be happy to know that many publications are very modern and write sponsored content filled with modern ads.
  - 65 3y ago
    Morning Brew gets good sponsorships because of their modern content. Modern content is making video, appealing to a target demographic (Gen Z for them), and being active on social media. Many newspapers don't care enough about social media to realize if they make social media oriented content, they would get sponsorships on those platforms. I used to work at a large regional newspaper, and they could not understand how social content works. They never made short form content, they refused to make a TikTok or post on Instagram reels or YouTube. Newspapers have always been supplemented in some way by advertising, but the old people in charge seem to think you can throw some banner ads on your website and call it a day. Sponsorships are a lot different than banner ads. Thus, you get a bunch of old people reading articles on websites, while the younger people are all on social media. Newspapers also don't understand you can use social content as a way to promote your full newspaper subscription. The place I worked at was a bunch of people who worked there for 30 years doing the exact same thing as they did on day 1. No desire to appeal to younger people, no desire to compete on social media. Probably because of their arrogance in thinking video or social media is below them and not "real" journalism.
    - linehedonist 3y ago
      Regional newspapers also by definition have a geographically restricted market. That worked well when there were geographical restrictions to distribution (printing and delivering newspapers), but less well in our modern age. NYT et al have found success by appealing to pivoting to larger national and international audiences.
basch 3y ago
Taxes -> Libraries -> Grants Bundles (Apple One, Microsoft 365) -> Apple News, MSN Pro Feedly -> Publishers -> Authors The problem with paying for journalism, is you have to pay ahead of time to consume an unknown. To do that you either need trust, or institutions collecting a little from everyone and making decisions where to allocate funds.

Non-profit organisations. Large and small foundations and charities. This is not a solution, I don’t know how to get there, but I think it would get better results.

SAI_Peregrinus 3y ago
E.g. Pro Publica. It gets pretty good results, for its niche (investigative journalism, focused primarily on institutional corruption).

65 3y ago

Either form journalist orgs as non-profits (e.g NPR) or modernize journalism content (e.g Morning Brew). The traditional print news model is getting increasingly out of date and it's going to take a bunch of old geezers dying to modernize journalism. It's still "content", and news outlets need to keep up with changing consumer tastes.

BadHumans 3y ago
What do you mean by modernize? Is being funded by ads modernizing in your eyes because that is how Morning Brew makes their money. If that's how you look at it then you'll be happy to know that many publications are very modern and write sponsored content filled with modern ads.
- 65 3y ago
  Morning Brew gets good sponsorships because of their modern content. Modern content is making video, appealing to a target demographic (Gen Z for them), and being active on social media. Many newspapers don't care enough about social media to realize if they make social media oriented content, they would get sponsorships on those platforms. I used to work at a large regional newspaper, and they could not understand how social content works. They never made short form content, they refused to make a TikTok or post on Instagram reels or YouTube. Newspapers have always been supplemented in some way by advertising, but the old people in charge seem to think you can throw some banner ads on your website and call it a day. Sponsorships are a lot different than banner ads. Thus, you get a bunch of old people reading articles on websites, while the younger people are all on social media. Newspapers also don't understand you can use social content as a way to promote your full newspaper subscription. The place I worked at was a bunch of people who worked there for 30 years doing the exact same thing as they did on day 1. No desire to appeal to younger people, no desire to compete on social media. Probably because of their arrogance in thinking video or social media is below them and not "real" journalism.
  - linehedonist 3y ago
    Regional newspapers also by definition have a geographically restricted market. That worked well when there were geographical restrictions to distribution (printing and delivering newspapers), but less well in our modern age. NYT et al have found success by appealing to pivoting to larger national and international audiences.

basch 3y ago

Taxes -> Libraries -> Grants Bundles (Apple One, Microsoft 365) -> Apple News, MSN Pro Feedly -> Publishers -> Authors The problem with paying for journalism, is you have to pay ahead of time to consume an unknown. To do that you either need trust, or institutions collecting a little from everyone and making decisions where to allocate funds.