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I'm 39 years old. Perfect shape, no health issues, don't smoke, don't drink, regular exercise. About a year ago, Out of NOWHERE I began snoring at night, and o

I'm 39 years old. Perfect shape, no health issues, don't smoke, don't drink, regular exercise. About a year ago, Out of NOWHERE I began snoring at night, and only when laying on my back. Never snored my entire life. No other position. But it drives my wife crazy. The problem is we cosleep with our baby, and laying on my back is the safest position. I don't have apnea so I don't qualify for insurance for any kind of mouthpiece. The ENT just laughs me off like it's no big deal. My nose is fine and he's zero help. I know it's something to do with my tongue but I have no idea what to do about it. I've tried thin pillows, thick ones, no pillows. Doesn't help.

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reportgunner 3y ago
I thought everyone snores sleeping on their back.
- photon_rancher 3y ago
  Nope. It’s common and can be an indicator for apnea etc.. Normally sleeping on your back maximizes airflow instead of creating an obstruction (snoring)
  - lupire 3y ago
    Sleeping on your back is a cause of apnea and snoring. It's basic gravity.
- supertofu 3y ago
  Uh... no? Not at all.
vel0city 3y ago
> The problem is we cosleep with our baby, and laying on my back is the safest position. No, the safest position is not having an infant in your bed with you while sleeping.
- bmitc 3y ago
  "the safest position ... cosleeping with our baby" Also, it really depends on what they mean by baby. An infant: probably shouldn't cosleep. A baby older than two to four months: probably fine if you have a large enough bed or side bed and take the proper precautions such as enough space for the baby, a flat surface with no sheets bunched up, no pillows or anything that can fall on them, etc. Some cultures promote sleep sharing yet have lower instances of SIDS than the U.S., and it's perhaps not clear how the studies arrived at it being so unsafe. Plus, as a parent, you are quite aware of the baby's presence. I think parents probably sleep worse during cosleeping, but the baby sleeps and bonds better. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/05/21/601289695/is-sleeping-with-your-baby-as-dangerous-as-doctors-say https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/05/21/6012896...
  - vel0city 3y ago
    > Overall, the two studies suggest bed-sharing — when no other hazards are present — raises the risk of SIDS by about threefold.
    - bmitc 3y ago
      Cosleeping is very common in Japan, and yet, they have much lower SIDS rates than the U.S. does.
      - vel0city 3y ago
        Japan: > Current SIDS ratio is 0.44/1,000 live birth. https://www.nature.com/articles/pr1999959z https://www.nature.com/articles/pr1999959z US: > 38.4 deaths per 100,000 live births in 2020 https://www.cdc.gov/sids/data.htm https://www.cdc.gov/sids/data.htm 38.4 / 100 = .384 You're saying 0.384 > 0.44 ? Either way, the person I was replying to has a diagnosed sleep disorder. You're really going to say it's a good idea for someone with a sleep disorder to sleep in the same bed as a child? No. The safest place for the child to sleep is in their own crib. You may choose to ignore those risks, it's not against the law or anything, but no matter how you slice it cosleeping is a riskier behavior than not cosleeping.
AlwaysRock 3y ago
I had a similar issue. Absolutely anecdotal but a jaw alignment mouth guard worked for me. ZQuiet is that one I have: https://zquiet-usa.com/ https://zquiet-usa.com/ I havnt used them but Zyppah looks like it is doing the same thing: https://zyppah.com/ https://zyppah.com/ The idea is to force your jaw into a slightly different position which keeps your tongue from falling back and blocking your airway. I tried it before a sleep machine because its like $50. It works well enough and my wife doesnt complain about snoring anymore if I sleep on my back.
- Solvency 3y ago
  The problem with these generic non-fitted ones I heard is it can really hurt your teeth (possibly even negatively impact them over prolonged use).
Shadowmist 3y ago
> insurance I was better off buying the machine outside of insurance. Insurance was testing to force me through some sort of rent-to-buy thing where the machine would get taken away if not used a certain number of hours per week. My out of pocket cost for the rental added up to significantly more that just buying the machine outright, and by buying the machine myself I didn’t have to share that data with the insurance company.
- sizzle 3y ago
  Same for my parents, they really try to squeeze every cent out of us. I straight up bought my folks a medical reclining bed cause insurance was going to make them rent it and obviously cost more in the long run. They prey on the elderly who cant advocate for themselves or are too sick or recovering to figure out financing.

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reportgunner 3y ago

I thought everyone snores sleeping on their back.

photon_rancher 3y ago
Nope. It’s common and can be an indicator for apnea etc.. Normally sleeping on your back maximizes airflow instead of creating an obstruction (snoring)
- lupire 3y ago
  Sleeping on your back is a cause of apnea and snoring. It's basic gravity.
supertofu 3y ago
Uh... no? Not at all.

vel0city 3y ago

> The problem is we cosleep with our baby, and laying on my back is the safest position. No, the safest position is not having an infant in your bed with you while sleeping.

bmitc 3y ago
"the safest position ... cosleeping with our baby" Also, it really depends on what they mean by baby. An infant: probably shouldn't cosleep. A baby older than two to four months: probably fine if you have a large enough bed or side bed and take the proper precautions such as enough space for the baby, a flat surface with no sheets bunched up, no pillows or anything that can fall on them, etc. Some cultures promote sleep sharing yet have lower instances of SIDS than the U.S., and it's perhaps not clear how the studies arrived at it being so unsafe. Plus, as a parent, you are quite aware of the baby's presence. I think parents probably sleep worse during cosleeping, but the baby sleeps and bonds better. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/05/21/601289695/is-sleeping-with-your-baby-as-dangerous-as-doctors-say https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/05/21/6012896...
- vel0city 3y ago
  > Overall, the two studies suggest bed-sharing — when no other hazards are present — raises the risk of SIDS by about threefold.
  - bmitc 3y ago
    Cosleeping is very common in Japan, and yet, they have much lower SIDS rates than the U.S. does.
    - vel0city 3y ago
      Japan: > Current SIDS ratio is 0.44/1,000 live birth. https://www.nature.com/articles/pr1999959z https://www.nature.com/articles/pr1999959z US: > 38.4 deaths per 100,000 live births in 2020 https://www.cdc.gov/sids/data.htm https://www.cdc.gov/sids/data.htm 38.4 / 100 = .384 You're saying 0.384 > 0.44 ? Either way, the person I was replying to has a diagnosed sleep disorder. You're really going to say it's a good idea for someone with a sleep disorder to sleep in the same bed as a child? No. The safest place for the child to sleep is in their own crib. You may choose to ignore those risks, it's not against the law or anything, but no matter how you slice it cosleeping is a riskier behavior than not cosleeping.

AlwaysRock 3y ago

I had a similar issue. Absolutely anecdotal but a jaw alignment mouth guard worked for me. ZQuiet is that one I have: https://zquiet-usa.com/ https://zquiet-usa.com/ I havnt used them but Zyppah looks like it is doing the same thing: https://zyppah.com/ https://zyppah.com/ The idea is to force your jaw into a slightly different position which keeps your tongue from falling back and blocking your airway. I tried it before a sleep machine because its like $50. It works well enough and my wife doesnt complain about snoring anymore if I sleep on my back.

Solvency 3y ago
The problem with these generic non-fitted ones I heard is it can really hurt your teeth (possibly even negatively impact them over prolonged use).

Shadowmist 3y ago

> insurance I was better off buying the machine outside of insurance. Insurance was testing to force me through some sort of rent-to-buy thing where the machine would get taken away if not used a certain number of hours per week. My out of pocket cost for the rental added up to significantly more that just buying the machine outright, and by buying the machine myself I didn’t have to share that data with the insurance company.

sizzle 3y ago
Same for my parents, they really try to squeeze every cent out of us. I straight up bought my folks a medical reclining bed cause insurance was going to make them rent it and obviously cost more in the long run. They prey on the elderly who cant advocate for themselves or are too sick or recovering to figure out financing.