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I spent 1 month around Kyoto's UNESCO sites 10 years ago while working remotely for a company in the US and am not sure I'd want to spend whole 6 months in Japa

I spent 1 month around Kyoto's UNESCO sites 10 years ago while working remotely for a company in the US and am not sure I'd want to spend whole 6 months in Japan when there are so many interesting places all around the world. One needed to know basic Japanese as very few people spoke English, finding an accommodation was a chore as AirBnB was non-existing and hotels with unlimited fast WiFi scarce and one had to book an apartment in some of their temporary housings months in advance. Overall a nice and unique country though people looked overworked (young people complaining about working 996 lifestyles) and isolated from foreigners, similar to Germans (except their children that always wanted to practice Engrish with anyone not looking Japanese).

gejose 3y ago
Everyone’s preferences differ when it comes to travel destinations. What may not have worked for you might actually be great for someone else. Ultimately, the decision to visit a destination should be based on personal interests and experiences.
- treprinum 3y ago
  Sure, I just remember on my last day in Japan I actually felt sadness that I didn't find whatever I was looking for, despite seeing like 15 UNESCO World Heritage sites, but essentially didn't make any lasting connection on a personal level with anyone due to being unable to break the formal shell of anyone. Total opposite to e.g. Brazil when one could make friends in 5 minutes and those folks remembered you for years.
  - boringg 3y ago
    To each their own - I think its rather crass to castigate a whole country because your own travel didn't find whatever deeper level bond you were searching for. I for one am suspect at being able make a good friend that lasts forever in 5 minutes. That sounds more like power dynamics in that you had something to offer them then some kind of mutual friendship based on shared interests. That said to each their own.
    - treprinum 3y ago
      Maybe. But prior to visiting Japan I actually studied Japanese for 5 years and after visiting it I stopped and quickly forgot whatever I learned as I simply didn't have any reason to as whatever I wanted to find wasn't there (I guess I was looking for a sci-fi wonderland full of robots or something, instead found tired uninterested people everywhere). Wrt Brazil folks, there was no power dynamics between us, they didn't see any $ from me as they were from fairly well-off families, just the society was much more open than the Japanese one. It felt more like Germany where colleagues working at the same desk together for 20 years still use formal polite speech to address each other.
      - boringg 3y ago
        Did you study the culture of Japan or the language? And yes it does sound like you were hoping for some kind of extraordinary event which probably made it all the more unlikely that you were going to find that travel nirvana. Whereas I am guessing you had no expectation in Brazil and were pleasantly surprised. I'm sorry you didn't have a good experience though I stand by my statement to each their own. Tough to compare societies/populations/cultures based on a sample size of one.
  - atxbcp 3y ago
    Tourists expecting to form lasting connections with locals always made me laugh. How deep can these connections be if you're only staying for a month? Why would a local invest in a 'lasting' connection that's just for a month?
kredd 3y ago
I think it depends what you’re looking for. You won’t go and find friends in a Japanese bar, like you could in some parts of US or LATAM. But I don’t think I’ve seen more “quiet slice of life” happening while strolling around Japan, Taiwan or Hong Kong. If you’re into people watching, it’s hard to beat. Especially in some parts of Japan, their obsessions with culture and heritage is very cool. Something like this is always cute to encounter, and it’s weird cause I thought it’s rare up until I visited Japan - https://x.com/kiyotoshi_y/status/1179243144363331585 https://x.com/kiyotoshi_y/status/1179243144363331585. That being said, I have Latino friends who hated those parts of Asia because they need “hot blooded friendliness culture”. Which is totally cool, to each their own!

gejose 3y ago

Everyone’s preferences differ when it comes to travel destinations. What may not have worked for you might actually be great for someone else. Ultimately, the decision to visit a destination should be based on personal interests and experiences.

treprinum 3y ago
Sure, I just remember on my last day in Japan I actually felt sadness that I didn't find whatever I was looking for, despite seeing like 15 UNESCO World Heritage sites, but essentially didn't make any lasting connection on a personal level with anyone due to being unable to break the formal shell of anyone. Total opposite to e.g. Brazil when one could make friends in 5 minutes and those folks remembered you for years.
- boringg 3y ago
  To each their own - I think its rather crass to castigate a whole country because your own travel didn't find whatever deeper level bond you were searching for. I for one am suspect at being able make a good friend that lasts forever in 5 minutes. That sounds more like power dynamics in that you had something to offer them then some kind of mutual friendship based on shared interests. That said to each their own.
  - treprinum 3y ago
    Maybe. But prior to visiting Japan I actually studied Japanese for 5 years and after visiting it I stopped and quickly forgot whatever I learned as I simply didn't have any reason to as whatever I wanted to find wasn't there (I guess I was looking for a sci-fi wonderland full of robots or something, instead found tired uninterested people everywhere). Wrt Brazil folks, there was no power dynamics between us, they didn't see any $ from me as they were from fairly well-off families, just the society was much more open than the Japanese one. It felt more like Germany where colleagues working at the same desk together for 20 years still use formal polite speech to address each other.
    - boringg 3y ago
      Did you study the culture of Japan or the language? And yes it does sound like you were hoping for some kind of extraordinary event which probably made it all the more unlikely that you were going to find that travel nirvana. Whereas I am guessing you had no expectation in Brazil and were pleasantly surprised. I'm sorry you didn't have a good experience though I stand by my statement to each their own. Tough to compare societies/populations/cultures based on a sample size of one.
- atxbcp 3y ago
  Tourists expecting to form lasting connections with locals always made me laugh. How deep can these connections be if you're only staying for a month? Why would a local invest in a 'lasting' connection that's just for a month?

kredd 3y ago

I think it depends what you’re looking for. You won’t go and find friends in a Japanese bar, like you could in some parts of US or LATAM. But I don’t think I’ve seen more “quiet slice of life” happening while strolling around Japan, Taiwan or Hong Kong. If you’re into people watching, it’s hard to beat. Especially in some parts of Japan, their obsessions with culture and heritage is very cool. Something like this is always cute to encounter, and it’s weird cause I thought it’s rare up until I visited Japan - https://x.com/kiyotoshi_y/status/1179243144363331585 https://x.com/kiyotoshi_y/status/1179243144363331585. That being said, I have Latino friends who hated those parts of Asia because they need “hot blooded friendliness culture”. Which is totally cool, to each their own!