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I was using the parental control, however I have stopped using it. In the end it is surrogate of a parent. Either you care about your child and you know what i

I was using the parental control, however I have stopped using it. In the end it is surrogate of a parent. Either you care about your child and you know what it is doing, or not. If you think that your child would be vunlerable to anything in the web, then most likely you should not give the phone to your kid. If the kid is old enough to understand things, then it does not require software parental control, but a parent. A good parent does not need parental control in apps of their children. Parental controls also disables ability to install apps from other sources and I prefer fdroid apps from play store apps. The last thing is that it teaches that we are controlled by some software company, and 'kept safe from harm'. It gives that illusion. It trains that illusion. It enforces it.

JoeAltmaier 3y ago
True, but maybe a little idealistic? Every parent can use a little help. There's so much that your child sees and hears, you want to be there to help explain it to them when they have questions. Hand them a device that shows anything happening anywhere in the world? Maybe a little help there, limiting what they can easily stumble upon, is a good thing.
- renegat0x0 3y ago
  Rising a child is difficult. Children, as people, are different. My children do not require it. It is not idealistic therefore. I do not say that everybody can now safely remove their safeguards.
riku_iki 3y ago
> If you think that your child would be vunlerable to anything in the web, then most likely you should not give the phone to your kid. phone has many utilities I want kids to use: make calls, check mail, maps, weather etc. The issue is that they are using it for secretly watching tiktok for example.
Angostura 3y ago
On iOS, the ability to prevent (say) the use of social media after 10pm is very useful. What would you, as someone who "cares about your child" do instead?
- autoexec 3y ago
  > On iOS, the ability to prevent (say) the use of social media after 10pm is very useful. What would you, as someone who "cares about your child" do instead? Have your child hand you their phone at 10PM before they go to bed? Why do they need a phone on their person 24/7?
  - Angostura 3y ago
    In my case, my child likes to listen to various Podcasts of music and it helps them get to sleep. "Hand over your phone" feels draconian, not caring. My
  - paulddraper 3y ago
    Because they charge it in their room? Because they use it as an alarm? Because you have a late date night and won't be there in person?
    - inanutshellus 3y ago
      In the end, it's your choice as a parent whether this is "good parenting" or not. The aforementioned roadblocks ("gee dad, it's my alarm clock! insurmountable obstacle! guess i keep the phone, sucker!") are not arguing in good faith.
      - paulddraper 3y ago
        It's not insurmountable. There are solutions. E.g. parental controls.
        pests 3y ago

JoeAltmaier 3y ago

True, but maybe a little idealistic? Every parent can use a little help. There's so much that your child sees and hears, you want to be there to help explain it to them when they have questions. Hand them a device that shows anything happening anywhere in the world? Maybe a little help there, limiting what they can easily stumble upon, is a good thing.

renegat0x0 3y ago
Rising a child is difficult. Children, as people, are different. My children do not require it. It is not idealistic therefore. I do not say that everybody can now safely remove their safeguards.

riku_iki 3y ago

> If you think that your child would be vunlerable to anything in the web, then most likely you should not give the phone to your kid. phone has many utilities I want kids to use: make calls, check mail, maps, weather etc. The issue is that they are using it for secretly watching tiktok for example.

Angostura 3y ago

On iOS, the ability to prevent (say) the use of social media after 10pm is very useful. What would you, as someone who "cares about your child" do instead?

autoexec 3y ago
> On iOS, the ability to prevent (say) the use of social media after 10pm is very useful. What would you, as someone who "cares about your child" do instead? Have your child hand you their phone at 10PM before they go to bed? Why do they need a phone on their person 24/7?
- Angostura 3y ago
  In my case, my child likes to listen to various Podcasts of music and it helps them get to sleep. "Hand over your phone" feels draconian, not caring. My
- paulddraper 3y ago
  Because they charge it in their room? Because they use it as an alarm? Because you have a late date night and won't be there in person?
  - inanutshellus 3y ago
    In the end, it's your choice as a parent whether this is "good parenting" or not. The aforementioned roadblocks ("gee dad, it's my alarm clock! insurmountable obstacle! guess i keep the phone, sucker!") are not arguing in good faith.
    - paulddraper 3y ago
      It's not insurmountable. There are solutions. E.g. parental controls.
      - pests 3y ago