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I see that many downvoters don't like that the things are named properly by their intent - I take it as showing support to the genocide in both cases. It still

by genman 3y ago

I see that many downvoters don't like that the things are named properly by their intent - I take it as showing support to the genocide in both cases. It still remains a fact that the genocidal war started by Russia has not yet been decided and both, attacking and defending sides are trying to figure out the weapon systems to accomplish their military goals and these weapon systems are going through rapid development and "field testing". It also remains a fact that low tech weaponry used by the terrorist organizations in Gaza has had very limited effect against the well equipped and highly motivated IDF.

hef19898 3y ago
The only side accused of Genozid in the current Gaza war is Israel. October 7th was a terror attack, not Genozid. What Russia does in Ukraine is a conventional war, not Genozid neither.
- mopsi 3y ago
  > What Russia does in Ukraine is a conventional war, not Genozid neither. Scholars of genocide disagree with your assessment. Russian actions against Ukrainians, from massacres to kidnapping of children and burning Ukrainian books, not to mention declarations that Ukrainians don't exist at all, are obvious signs of genocial intent and genocide itself. https://newlinesinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/English-Report-2.pdf https://newlinesinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/English-Rep... Articles like the infamous "What Russia Should Do with Ukraine" also leave no doubt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Russia_Should_Do_with_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Russia_Should_Do_with_Ukr... After all, why does Putin have so much trouble travelling internationally? Because the International Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant for kidnapping of children, which he openly boasted about, apparently not understanding that rest of the world sees that as a form of genocide. The only ones I've seen argue against calling Russian actions in Ukraine a genocide are those who sometimes accidentally use Russian phrases when writing in English, that is, the denial is emotional, not fact-based.
- genman 3y ago
  Conventional war with the intent to destroy a nation is still a genocide. Terrorist attack with the intent to destroy as many members of a group as possible is still a genocide. dang, when it comes to moderation then my intent is not to inflict a flamewar, but as I have pointed out, there is a group of people on HN who are actively supporting genocide against Ukrainians and Jews. We don't call Holocaust a German Jewish conflict for reason.

by genman 3y ago

hef19898 3y ago

The only side accused of Genozid in the current Gaza war is Israel. October 7th was a terror attack, not Genozid. What Russia does in Ukraine is a conventional war, not Genozid neither.

mopsi 3y ago
> What Russia does in Ukraine is a conventional war, not Genozid neither. Scholars of genocide disagree with your assessment. Russian actions against Ukrainians, from massacres to kidnapping of children and burning Ukrainian books, not to mention declarations that Ukrainians don't exist at all, are obvious signs of genocial intent and genocide itself. https://newlinesinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/English-Report-2.pdf https://newlinesinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/English-Rep... Articles like the infamous "What Russia Should Do with Ukraine" also leave no doubt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Russia_Should_Do_with_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Russia_Should_Do_with_Ukr... After all, why does Putin have so much trouble travelling internationally? Because the International Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant for kidnapping of children, which he openly boasted about, apparently not understanding that rest of the world sees that as a form of genocide. The only ones I've seen argue against calling Russian actions in Ukraine a genocide are those who sometimes accidentally use Russian phrases when writing in English, that is, the denial is emotional, not fact-based.
genman 3y ago
Conventional war with the intent to destroy a nation is still a genocide. Terrorist attack with the intent to destroy as many members of a group as possible is still a genocide. dang, when it comes to moderation then my intent is not to inflict a flamewar, but as I have pointed out, there is a group of people on HN who are actively supporting genocide against Ukrainians and Jews. We don't call Holocaust a German Jewish conflict for reason.