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I use starlink, it works pretty well, as good as cable. Not garbage. I've ridden in Teslas. Some likes, but holy shit that drivetrain. Not garbage. You howeve

I use starlink, it works pretty well, as good as cable. Not garbage. I've ridden in Teslas. Some likes, but holy shit that drivetrain. Not garbage. You however, have been consuming garbage media. Hint: if every other day (ahem Gawker sites) there is an outrageous anti-Musk headline or "crazy thing Musk said" headline, your media source is total garbage. Is he a "good guy"? No. Is he "the worse thing ever?" No. What does it matter what he says or does? Nothing. Yet he is living in seemingly millions of people's brains as the sum factor of dozens of PR and advertising campaigns, in addition to the general anti-intellectualism of America. Anyway, Starlink is a transformative data provider service that blankets virtually the entire world in broadband class connectivity, including massive amounts of third world countries and other areas. Calling it garbage is dumb.

mort96 3y ago
Agree to disagree I guess. The fact that it's his project makes it uninteresting even if the tech would have been alright in the hands of someone less harmful. If you aren't catching things like his signal boosting of literal nazis on Twitter, your media sources are garbage. (Also is Gawker even still a thing?)
- AtlasBarfed 3y ago
  on one hand - Tesla kicked off one of the two pillars of dealing with climate change: EVs to eliminate as much carbon emissions from transportation as possible on the other hand - mean tweets ... yes there is a lot of hard work by other people involved in #1, but Musk's leadership was a major contributor. Let me ask you a question. Rank the most evil CEOs in the world. If you have musk over petroleum companies, mining executives, military contractors, gun manufacturers, internet companies hoovering your data for the government, financial wizards defrauding people for short term gain, etc, then I'm sorry, you don't know anything about the world. Oops, I forgot purdue pharma and other opioid producers, chemicals and industrialists that dump and poison the environment, surveillance and security companies enabling despots (and the US government), I mean, I could go on.
  - mort96 3y ago
    EVs don't "eliminate as much carbon emissions from transportation as possible".
    - AtlasBarfed 3y ago
      I suppose I could engineer a worm that bricks as many connected ICE cars, and also a worm that brings the world supply chain and petroleum production pipeline to a halt, and bring civilization to an end. So technically, you are correct. When Tesla started, there was zero. ZERO. movement by the automotive and governmental powers towards decarbonization of transportation beyond hollow treaties, one of which had already been utterly ignored. Let me emphasize: ZERO, or as close as practically imaginable to it. Ten years later, every company's CEO had a question in front of them 1) how are you going to transition to electric vehicles and stay viable. If they couldn't answer that (BMW in particular, who actually were minutely ahead of the curve but squandered it), they were fired.

mort96 3y ago

Agree to disagree I guess. The fact that it's his project makes it uninteresting even if the tech would have been alright in the hands of someone less harmful. If you aren't catching things like his signal boosting of literal nazis on Twitter, your media sources are garbage. (Also is Gawker even still a thing?)

AtlasBarfed 3y ago
on one hand - Tesla kicked off one of the two pillars of dealing with climate change: EVs to eliminate as much carbon emissions from transportation as possible on the other hand - mean tweets ... yes there is a lot of hard work by other people involved in #1, but Musk's leadership was a major contributor. Let me ask you a question. Rank the most evil CEOs in the world. If you have musk over petroleum companies, mining executives, military contractors, gun manufacturers, internet companies hoovering your data for the government, financial wizards defrauding people for short term gain, etc, then I'm sorry, you don't know anything about the world. Oops, I forgot purdue pharma and other opioid producers, chemicals and industrialists that dump and poison the environment, surveillance and security companies enabling despots (and the US government), I mean, I could go on.
- mort96 3y ago
  EVs don't "eliminate as much carbon emissions from transportation as possible".
  - AtlasBarfed 3y ago
    I suppose I could engineer a worm that bricks as many connected ICE cars, and also a worm that brings the world supply chain and petroleum production pipeline to a halt, and bring civilization to an end. So technically, you are correct. When Tesla started, there was zero. ZERO. movement by the automotive and governmental powers towards decarbonization of transportation beyond hollow treaties, one of which had already been utterly ignored. Let me emphasize: ZERO, or as close as practically imaginable to it. Ten years later, every company's CEO had a question in front of them 1) how are you going to transition to electric vehicles and stay viable. If they couldn't answer that (BMW in particular, who actually were minutely ahead of the curve but squandered it), they were fired.