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My main issue with this new Campfire thing is that since it's self-hosted, my boss can basically read all my chats with coworkers. Sure, Slack's priciest plan l

My main issue with this new Campfire thing is that since it's self-hosted, my boss can basically read all my chats with coworkers. Sure, Slack's priciest plan lets them do that too, but most Slack setups I've seen don't bother. Plus, Slack itself isn't as likely to snoop through my messages about pay raises or thinking about quitting, unlike my employer.

dcchambers 3y ago
Idk this seems like a non-issue...Are people really having chats they shouldn't have via a work chat? I thought we knew better than that. I wouldn't trust ANY chat platform managed by my employer with those types of messages.
- bbx 3y ago
  You'd be surprised how much private conversations are had on a work chat. And even if some conversations don't discuss anything critical, it could still be used against you somehow.
JohnFen 3y ago
> my boss can basically read all my chats with coworkers. What are you talking about that would be bad for your employer to hear to begin with? Non-work-related discussions should never happen on work machines.
lopkeny12ko 3y ago
Uh, any entity who operates a service and is responsible for managing its database can read your data. Slack's database engineers can read your chats too.
- poszlem 3y ago
  Yeah, I specifically addressed that in the post. Slack is not really that interested in me potentially thinking of leaving my employer or about me talking with a work friend about wanting to get a raise. My employer might be.
  - dbbk 3y ago
    Your employer can read your Slacks too
nickjj 3y ago
> Plus, Slack itself isn't as likely to snoop through my messages about pay raises or thinking about quitting, unlike my employer. Slack absolutely has a way to export all data (including private direct messages), it's documented here: https://slack.com/help/articles/201658943-Export-your-workspace-data https://slack.com/help/articles/201658943-Export-your-worksp... Since your employer would be the organization owner or admin of the Slack account that would allow them to check into everything that anyone has ever said.

dcchambers 3y ago

Idk this seems like a non-issue...Are people really having chats they shouldn't have via a work chat? I thought we knew better than that. I wouldn't trust ANY chat platform managed by my employer with those types of messages.

bbx 3y ago
You'd be surprised how much private conversations are had on a work chat. And even if some conversations don't discuss anything critical, it could still be used against you somehow.

JohnFen 3y ago

> my boss can basically read all my chats with coworkers. What are you talking about that would be bad for your employer to hear to begin with? Non-work-related discussions should never happen on work machines.

lopkeny12ko 3y ago

Uh, any entity who operates a service and is responsible for managing its database can read your data. Slack's database engineers can read your chats too.

poszlem 3y ago
Yeah, I specifically addressed that in the post. Slack is not really that interested in me potentially thinking of leaving my employer or about me talking with a work friend about wanting to get a raise. My employer might be.
- dbbk 3y ago
  Your employer can read your Slacks too

nickjj 3y ago

> Plus, Slack itself isn't as likely to snoop through my messages about pay raises or thinking about quitting, unlike my employer. Slack absolutely has a way to export all data (including private direct messages), it's documented here: https://slack.com/help/articles/201658943-Export-your-workspace-data https://slack.com/help/articles/201658943-Export-your-worksp... Since your employer would be the organization owner or admin of the Slack account that would allow them to check into everything that anyone has ever said.