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> Not saying this is evil, just companies following profit incentives as intended. Love of money is the root of all evil. > But it often results in worse outc

> Not saying this is evil, just companies following profit incentives as intended. Love of money is the root of all evil. > But it often results in worse outcomes for users. "The sad fact of the matter is that people play politics with standards to gain commercial advantage, and the result is that end users suffer the consequences. This is the case with character encoding for computer systems, and it is even more the case with HDTV." Well, they forgot to mention WWW, too. > I would love to see some sort of reboot of the web with simple protocols and real experimentation happening in browsers again. Some people have working on alternative protocols and file formats (and sometimes, variants of existing ones or reusing older ones), including myself.

apitman 3y ago
Would love to hear about what you're working on
- zzo38computer 3y ago
  A GitHub repository is at: https://github.com/zzo38/scorpion https://github.com/zzo38/scorpion The newest version of the specification document is also accessible by the Scorpion protocol itself (currently TLS is not implemented on the server side): scorpion://zzo38computer.org/specification.txt (Some of the other things other people have done are: Gemini, Spartan, and some others. Some of them (e.g. HYDIN, TerseNet) are not defined enough at this time, so it would be difficult to use them.) There are also other existing protocols, e.g. NNTP and IRC for communication between users, and Gopher for files and menus with hypertext.) Of course, different people have different ideas, and different goals and criticisms (I have some of my own criticisms too, but many other people have other criticisms of Gemini and these other protocols/file-formats, some of which may be found on Hacker News). You are free to make criticisms of Scorpion (including if any part of the document is unclear, or if you think some part is good or is not good), too. Actually, the repository there also does include a few other things; the "astroget" program (similar than curl) implements Scorpion protocol and also implements Gemini, Gopher, Spartan, NNTP, and HTTP (deliberately not implementing cookies and many other features of HTTP; if you need those features then you can use curl instead, anyways).

apitman 3y ago

Would love to hear about what you're working on

zzo38computer 3y ago
A GitHub repository is at: https://github.com/zzo38/scorpion https://github.com/zzo38/scorpion The newest version of the specification document is also accessible by the Scorpion protocol itself (currently TLS is not implemented on the server side): scorpion://zzo38computer.org/specification.txt (Some of the other things other people have done are: Gemini, Spartan, and some others. Some of them (e.g. HYDIN, TerseNet) are not defined enough at this time, so it would be difficult to use them.) There are also other existing protocols, e.g. NNTP and IRC for communication between users, and Gopher for files and menus with hypertext.) Of course, different people have different ideas, and different goals and criticisms (I have some of my own criticisms too, but many other people have other criticisms of Gemini and these other protocols/file-formats, some of which may be found on Hacker News). You are free to make criticisms of Scorpion (including if any part of the document is unclear, or if you think some part is good or is not good), too. Actually, the repository there also does include a few other things; the "astroget" program (similar than curl) implements Scorpion protocol and also implements Gemini, Gopher, Spartan, NNTP, and HTTP (deliberately not implementing cookies and many other features of HTTP; if you need those features then you can use curl instead, anyways).