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It's not VPN vs. no VPN. It's crapware like Ivanti and Zscaler vs. sane things like OpenVPN and WireGuard.
by josephcsible 3y ago
It's not VPN vs. no VPN. It's crapware like Ivanti and Zscaler vs. sane things like OpenVPN and WireGuard.
- batch12 3y agoMaybe I've missed it (very likely), is there an enterprise-grade product that allows easy management of WireGuard or OpenVPN for say 20-30k users/endpoints and that integrates easily with Active Directory and a centralized MFA provider? Do these products provide support agreements? To be fair, I have no love for Ivanti or Zscaler, but I do understand why companies choose them over some standalone, open source products.
- AgentK20 3y agoTailscale? Unless I'm misunderstanding the use-case (which I probably am)
- 1oooqooq 3y agoTailscale et al probably doesn't give kickbacks on large contracts like Ivanti et al do.
- simplyaccont 3y agovpn its just small part of what zscaler does. its a bunch of security related products
- josephcsible 3y agoYes, but the VPN is the only useful part. The rest is what makes it crapware.
- simplyaccont 3y agothe rest is what companies need and pay money for. vpn is door opener
- olyjohn 3y agoThis is the question I heard constantly when I was working in IT. You know what it led to? Us using trash like Ivanti and Solarwinds.
- tsujamin 3y agoMy advice tends to be using SASE things like AppProxy - you can have your less-than-stellar enterprise business apps exposed outside of the LAN without putting them up as a target on the public internet