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How is it the "CPP"'s framing when both sides still claim it as their official position? From a day-to-day perspective, they treat each other as separate count

How is it the "CPP"'s framing when both sides still claim it as their official position? From a day-to-day perspective, they treat each other as separate countries in practice, if not in name.

jncfhnb 3y ago
That is not the position of Taiwan, and certainly not of the political party that just won the presidential election.
- pests 3y ago
  Taiwan still claims they are part of China. It is part of the public farce everyone is playing. To claim otherwise would throw an egg in face of China.
  - jncfhnb 3y ago
    Surely you can provide evidence of this claim as the Taiwan state position?
    - pests 3y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_China#:~:text=The%20Kuomintang%20holds%20the%20%22One,both%20mainland%20China%20and%20Taiwan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_China#:~:text=The%20Kuomin....
      - jncfhnb 3y ago
        You’ve just cited a link for a CCP backed political party which just lost the election by a sizeable amount.
        pests 3y ago
        Governments are made out of people.
        jncfhnb 3y ago
        And the people elected a leader who strongly opposes what you’re saying is the independent nation of Taiwan’s perspective
        pests 3y ago
        Look I do agree with you. Taiwan is it's own country and deserves to be. It's treated and acts that way in every sense of the word. You are right the KMT has now lost 4 presidential elections in a row and the tides are changing. But they still are the majority party in the legislature and will continue to exert tons of control. My claim is only that Taiwan needs to pretend it still feels united with the mainland to maintain the political farce and keep Beijing happy. That for Taiwan to claim independence would be a political game of chess as then that means Taiwan is no longer just a breakaway province in rebellion - it's actually succeeded. Maybe officially you are correct but you can't claim the above has no bearing on the relationships between the two nations.

How is it the "CPP"'s framing when both sides still claim it as their official position? From a day-to-day perspective, they treat each other as separate countries in practice, if not in name.

jncfhnb 3y ago

That is not the position of Taiwan, and certainly not of the political party that just won the presidential election.

pests 3y ago
Taiwan still claims they are part of China. It is part of the public farce everyone is playing. To claim otherwise would throw an egg in face of China.
- jncfhnb 3y ago
  Surely you can provide evidence of this claim as the Taiwan state position?
  - pests 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_China#:~:text=The%20Kuomintang%20holds%20the%20%22One,both%20mainland%20China%20and%20Taiwan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_China#:~:text=The%20Kuomin....
    - jncfhnb 3y ago
      You’ve just cited a link for a CCP backed political party which just lost the election by a sizeable amount.
      - pests 3y ago
        Governments are made out of people.
        jncfhnb 3y ago
        And the people elected a leader who strongly opposes what you’re saying is the independent nation of Taiwan’s perspective
        pests 3y ago
        Look I do agree with you. Taiwan is it's own country and deserves to be. It's treated and acts that way in every sense of the word. You are right the KMT has now lost 4 presidential elections in a row and the tides are changing. But they still are the majority party in the legislature and will continue to exert tons of control. My claim is only that Taiwan needs to pretend it still feels united with the mainland to maintain the political farce and keep Beijing happy. That for Taiwan to claim independence would be a political game of chess as then that means Taiwan is no longer just a breakaway province in rebellion - it's actually succeeded. Maybe officially you are correct but you can't claim the above has no bearing on the relationships between the two nations.