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>and no one should be charged more based on their neighborhood Then the city should be obligated to lock up vandals and refined materials thieves. It's bullshi

>and no one should be charged more based on their neighborhood Then the city should be obligated to lock up vandals and refined materials thieves. It's bullshit to tell a network provider they have to provide the same service at the same cost to an area where they have to re-lay hundreds of meters of copper every week. >Plenty of room there to include people who choose to protect their security and morals but are discriminated against for those choices. Society should not be obligated to adapt to a crazy person who is only willing to communicate by passing notes via dumbwaiter and only using pseudonyms.

nonrandomstring 3y ago
> should not be obligated to adapt to a crazy person who is only willing to Actually yes it should and that's why we have non-discriminatory laws (the subject of the article) in the first place. In civilised countries we do that in order to avoid what John Stuart-Mill called the tyranny of the majority. But since you already see these minorities as "crazy" I hold out scant hope for your love of other people. I even think the US even has some constitutional basis for the Protection of Minority Rights.
- wang_li 3y ago
  We're not talking about people with disabilities, we're talking about people who are choosing to not join the rest of society and using modern technologies to sustain modern life. Someone doesn't want to do banking online? Only wants to pay cash for everything? Doesn't want to carry a cellphone? That's their choice, it doesn't mean everyone else has to act like that too or even streamline their ability to behave that way. Shops can only accept cards, banks can have a reduced number of physical locations and hours, telephone companies can stop offering payphones.
  - nonrandomstring 3y ago
    > We're not talking about I am talking about democracies where we grant people the right to freedom of opinion and lifestyle choices so long as that doesn't infringe on others. It's a precious thing we fought many wars for, and will no doubt fight many more to preserve.against a mentality that puts the convenience of bureaucratic machinery ahead of human needs and human diversity.
jan3024-2r 3y ago
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sgift 3y ago
> Then the city should be obligated to lock up vandals and refined materials thieves. Uh .. aren't these things illegal? Last time I checked people who do crimes are usually taken by the police.
- wang_li 3y ago
  And yet municipalities don't enforce these laws except in the most convenient cases.

nonrandomstring 3y ago

> should not be obligated to adapt to a crazy person who is only willing to Actually yes it should and that's why we have non-discriminatory laws (the subject of the article) in the first place. In civilised countries we do that in order to avoid what John Stuart-Mill called the tyranny of the majority. But since you already see these minorities as "crazy" I hold out scant hope for your love of other people. I even think the US even has some constitutional basis for the Protection of Minority Rights.

wang_li 3y ago
We're not talking about people with disabilities, we're talking about people who are choosing to not join the rest of society and using modern technologies to sustain modern life. Someone doesn't want to do banking online? Only wants to pay cash for everything? Doesn't want to carry a cellphone? That's their choice, it doesn't mean everyone else has to act like that too or even streamline their ability to behave that way. Shops can only accept cards, banks can have a reduced number of physical locations and hours, telephone companies can stop offering payphones.
- nonrandomstring 3y ago
  > We're not talking about I am talking about democracies where we grant people the right to freedom of opinion and lifestyle choices so long as that doesn't infringe on others. It's a precious thing we fought many wars for, and will no doubt fight many more to preserve.against a mentality that puts the convenience of bureaucratic machinery ahead of human needs and human diversity.

jan3024-2r 3y ago

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sgift 3y ago

> Then the city should be obligated to lock up vandals and refined materials thieves. Uh .. aren't these things illegal? Last time I checked people who do crimes are usually taken by the police.

wang_li 3y ago
And yet municipalities don't enforce these laws except in the most convenient cases.