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> both Polish-programmer and Polish-typist keyboard layouts Brilliant! Growing up in Slovenia there was only the typist locale, qwertz of course. Coding was fu

by Swizec 3y ago

> both Polish-programmer and Polish-typist keyboard layouts Brilliant! Growing up in Slovenia there was only the typist locale, qwertz of course. Coding was full of altgr + <key> combos and it gets real annoying real fast. Most of us nerds switched to the US layout fairly early and simply ignored diactritics. š becomes s, č becomes c, ž becomes z. Especially when texting came around and mobile phones didn’t even have those letters. Most people from Slovenia can fluently read words without diacritics and recognize based on context. Even if you weren’t a nerd, in the 90’s and 00’s it was a gamble if the software or website you’re using will render those characters so people learned not to use them. iOS still doesn’t have a Slovenian layout. Not sure about Android. I hear in the commodore days people used to write ss, cc, zz but that didn’t catch on in my generation.

ajuc 3y ago
> Brilliant! Maybe it was brilliant early on, but by 2000 like 99% of computer users didn't knew about the typist layout and yet it was always one accidental keypress away :) It was a shortut that you could press accidentally when you highlighted whole words with ctrl+shift+left/right. > ignored diactritics Yeah we wrote without diacritics too early on. On computers because in 90s there were 3 competing 8bit encodings so it was like 66% chance you got the encoding wrong. Most nerds (me included) could recognize the most common encoding mismatches visually :) Thank god for utf-8 :). We had diacritics in phones but it was a hassle to type them with numerical keyboards on dumbphones, so most people didn't. So now it looks "lazy" to avoid diacritics and most people use them AFAIK. BTW it's funny how outdated Polish ortography (we still have digraphs sz/cz/rz/dz and even some trigraphs like dzi which most Latin Slavic scripts replaced with š etc.) became a positive early on during the computer revolution.
Izkata 3y ago
> iOS still doesn’t have a Slovenian layout. Not sure about Android. Android is going to depend on which keyboard you're using. SwiftKey has Slovenian in the list, but I can't comment on how well it works.
- nosrepa 3y ago
  Google keyboard has two, at a cursory glance.

by Swizec 3y ago

ajuc 3y ago

> Brilliant! Maybe it was brilliant early on, but by 2000 like 99% of computer users didn't knew about the typist layout and yet it was always one accidental keypress away :) It was a shortut that you could press accidentally when you highlighted whole words with ctrl+shift+left/right. > ignored diactritics Yeah we wrote without diacritics too early on. On computers because in 90s there were 3 competing 8bit encodings so it was like 66% chance you got the encoding wrong. Most nerds (me included) could recognize the most common encoding mismatches visually :) Thank god for utf-8 :). We had diacritics in phones but it was a hassle to type them with numerical keyboards on dumbphones, so most people didn't. So now it looks "lazy" to avoid diacritics and most people use them AFAIK. BTW it's funny how outdated Polish ortography (we still have digraphs sz/cz/rz/dz and even some trigraphs like dzi which most Latin Slavic scripts replaced with š etc.) became a positive early on during the computer revolution.

Izkata 3y ago

> iOS still doesn’t have a Slovenian layout. Not sure about Android. Android is going to depend on which keyboard you're using. SwiftKey has Slovenian in the list, but I can't comment on how well it works.

nosrepa 3y ago
Google keyboard has two, at a cursory glance.