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> For me VR for office use doesn't survive the "timeline reversal thought experiment". I think the most damning "thought experiment" is "do you think you'd buy

> For me VR for office use doesn't survive the "timeline reversal thought experiment". I think the most damning "thought experiment" is "do you think you'd buy this?". I'm waiting for a VR headset for this. Less 'in office' and more 'WFH' but still same idea. I don't know if the Apple headset is the one (because my work/Apple won't let me connect my existing computer to it) but it looks to closely solve the problem on a hardware level. I've screamed it from the mountains. I want a VR headset that acts as a monitor/tv and lets me turn any flat surface into a private desk. I travel a lot, and it sucks not having a monitor in a hotel. It sucks needing the extra room for a desk when I have tables already. Housing in my city is $1000+/sqft, so space for a desk or office is a meaningful expense for many. It sucks that having others in my house (kids, spouse) means I can't have a private, distraction free area without paying for a whole extra room (again, a premium). Plenty of people besides me live in an n+1 bedroom house, where they have a whole extra room for a desk. Plenty more people live in urban environments where they can't afford extra private space. Think on the global scale, where people have more multi-generational homes, and live in smaller urban apartments. Sure they might not be able to afford the top-line apple headset today, but think longterm. Plenty more people are students, in academic halls and dorms and libraries, and would benefit from "on demand" distraction free, large monitors but don't have the private space for it.

josephg 3y ago
Yeah, I watched a few videos about the apple headset and this was one of my takeaways as well. Would I buy this? - I would if it were a viable replacement for my computer monitor. I have a 48" monitor at home. Its basically a TV on my desk. I absolutely adore having so much space while I'm programming. If the resolution, price, battery life, weight and sweatiness issues of virtual headsets were all addressed to the point that I could use a headset like that instead of a giant monitor, I'd totally buy one. Especially if it meant I didn't have to lug my laptop around as a result. After all - the apple headset has an M2 chip in it. There's no good technical reason to need a laptop as well. The apple vision headset looks like its getting much closer to that dream. The displays and the software stack look much more appealing than the quest 2 I have. But they need to address the weight and battery life. And it needs to be a lot cheaper (or a lot more capable) to justify its price. I'll probably grab one in a few generations if they keep iterating on it.
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  Ah, another LG OLED convert.
  - josephg 3y ago
    Sadly I got the gigabyte aorus 48U. Same panel, but rubbish display firmware. The display dims itself automatically if not many pixels have changed their value in the last few minutes - and you don't bother many pixels by programming. It works great for gaming, but coding on it for the first few weeks was a mess where every 5 minutes or so I'd need to alt+tab around or wiggle a bright window or I'd stop being able to read my code. (And the dimming behaviour is impossible to disable.) I complained to customer support about it - and they did nothing. Eventually I wrote a little background process which makes the whole display flash white every 5 minutes to stop it from dimming. Its a little weird and distracting - especially when I'm in the next room and don't expect a flash. But it works great. The display might get burn in in a few years as a result. If it does I'll look for a replacement from anyone but gigabyte.
    - satvikpendem 3y ago
      > The display dims itself automatically if not many pixels have changed their value in the last few minutes - and you don't bother many pixels by programming I turned this off in the hidden factory settings for the LG OLED: https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/sbords/how_to_access_lg_service_menu_without_the_service/ https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/sbords/how_to_... Perhaps there is something similar for yours too.
cyanydeez 3y ago
ASUS Appears to be on this track. https://edgeup.asus.com/2024/asus-glasses-intro/ https://edgeup.asus.com/2024/asus-glasses-intro/
- yencabulator 3y ago
  What on earth is that cookie consent thing doing? There's a "looks like an Apple slider toggle" thing that instead of sliding anything, changes color on click -- it's just a weird checkbox.

josephg 3y ago

Yeah, I watched a few videos about the apple headset and this was one of my takeaways as well. Would I buy this? - I would if it were a viable replacement for my computer monitor. I have a 48" monitor at home. Its basically a TV on my desk. I absolutely adore having so much space while I'm programming. If the resolution, price, battery life, weight and sweatiness issues of virtual headsets were all addressed to the point that I could use a headset like that instead of a giant monitor, I'd totally buy one. Especially if it meant I didn't have to lug my laptop around as a result. After all - the apple headset has an M2 chip in it. There's no good technical reason to need a laptop as well. The apple vision headset looks like its getting much closer to that dream. The displays and the software stack look much more appealing than the quest 2 I have. But they need to address the weight and battery life. And it needs to be a lot cheaper (or a lot more capable) to justify its price. I'll probably grab one in a few generations if they keep iterating on it.

satvikpendem 3y ago
Ah, another LG OLED convert.
- josephg 3y ago
  Sadly I got the gigabyte aorus 48U. Same panel, but rubbish display firmware. The display dims itself automatically if not many pixels have changed their value in the last few minutes - and you don't bother many pixels by programming. It works great for gaming, but coding on it for the first few weeks was a mess where every 5 minutes or so I'd need to alt+tab around or wiggle a bright window or I'd stop being able to read my code. (And the dimming behaviour is impossible to disable.) I complained to customer support about it - and they did nothing. Eventually I wrote a little background process which makes the whole display flash white every 5 minutes to stop it from dimming. Its a little weird and distracting - especially when I'm in the next room and don't expect a flash. But it works great. The display might get burn in in a few years as a result. If it does I'll look for a replacement from anyone but gigabyte.
  - satvikpendem 3y ago
    > The display dims itself automatically if not many pixels have changed their value in the last few minutes - and you don't bother many pixels by programming I turned this off in the hidden factory settings for the LG OLED: https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/sbords/how_to_access_lg_service_menu_without_the_service/ https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/sbords/how_to_... Perhaps there is something similar for yours too.

cyanydeez 3y ago

ASUS Appears to be on this track. https://edgeup.asus.com/2024/asus-glasses-intro/ https://edgeup.asus.com/2024/asus-glasses-intro/

yencabulator 3y ago
What on earth is that cookie consent thing doing? There's a "looks like an Apple slider toggle" thing that instead of sliding anything, changes color on click -- it's just a weird checkbox.