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There is probably a lesson here on the importance of having a culturally diverse team as well.

fortran77 3y ago
Has any diversity officer in any American company every had adding people from Poland (or any European country) as a goal? In fact, I was chastized in a big company for having too many people from Europe -- and I'm not from Europe myself!
- ajuc 3y ago
  Diversity is mostly perceived through American lenses = skin color, gender, sex :) It's a cargo cult at this point.
- Swizec 3y ago
  As a 0th gen immigrant from a low income country (Slovenia), I have been told many times that DEI is not for me. My minority is too small so I just count as white. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  - mbork_pl 3y ago
    > My minority is too small I can't decide whether this is hilarious, depressing, or both at the same time. (BTW, another Pole here, who can't really comprehend the American obsession with race/skin color. I'd understand it – in a sense – 100 or 500 years ago, but it's 2024, why does anyone even care?)
    - mikrl 3y ago
      In North America you get lumped in with the Germans and the Russians and the Austrians too… glad I have a morbid sense of humour!
      - Swizec 3y ago
        > and the Austrians too Funfact: Nobody knows exactly how many people of Slovenian descent live in USA because until 1918 many of them just said "Austrian" on the immigration forms to avoid anti-slavic sentiment. And we were technically part of AustroHungary so it wasn't even lying. Officially there's about 180,000 of us. Orders of magnitude fewer than the minorities that DEI efforts tend to think about.
    - sangnoir 3y ago
      > who can't really comprehend the American obsession with race/skin color America's very founding was based on the "obsession" of race/skin color. The expansion west wasn't very, uh, egalitarian. > I'd understand it – in a sense – 100 or 500 years ago 100 years ago was 1924 - the "Tulsa race riots" had been 3 years prior, and a certain voluntary organization known for grandiose titles and its obsession with race/skin color was having a massive resurgence.

Has any diversity officer in any American company every had adding people from Poland (or any European country) as a goal? In fact, I was chastized in a big company for having too many people from Europe -- and I'm not from Europe myself!

ajuc 3y ago
Diversity is mostly perceived through American lenses = skin color, gender, sex :) It's a cargo cult at this point.
Swizec 3y ago
As a 0th gen immigrant from a low income country (Slovenia), I have been told many times that DEI is not for me. My minority is too small so I just count as white. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- mbork_pl 3y ago
  > My minority is too small I can't decide whether this is hilarious, depressing, or both at the same time. (BTW, another Pole here, who can't really comprehend the American obsession with race/skin color. I'd understand it – in a sense – 100 or 500 years ago, but it's 2024, why does anyone even care?)
  - mikrl 3y ago
    In North America you get lumped in with the Germans and the Russians and the Austrians too… glad I have a morbid sense of humour!
    - Swizec 3y ago
      > and the Austrians too Funfact: Nobody knows exactly how many people of Slovenian descent live in USA because until 1918 many of them just said "Austrian" on the immigration forms to avoid anti-slavic sentiment. And we were technically part of AustroHungary so it wasn't even lying. Officially there's about 180,000 of us. Orders of magnitude fewer than the minorities that DEI efforts tend to think about.
  - sangnoir 3y ago
    > who can't really comprehend the American obsession with race/skin color America's very founding was based on the "obsession" of race/skin color. The expansion west wasn't very, uh, egalitarian. > I'd understand it – in a sense – 100 or 500 years ago 100 years ago was 1924 - the "Tulsa race riots" had been 3 years prior, and a certain voluntary organization known for grandiose titles and its obsession with race/skin color was having a massive resurgence.