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Healthcare, education and retirement/social security included.

TheAlchemist 3y ago
And no tipping ! It's hard to really compare between the countries, but I feel like one should almost x2 an EU salary, to get an US equivalent, in terms of quality of life offered.
cassepipe 3y ago
Plus, OP makes 6000 euros a month which really is not nothing.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  6000 a month is huge by EU standards. Most of EU tech workers make way less than that. In Austria you can expect to take home about 3k a month. More is a rare outlier. Outside of big-tech and FAANGS, pay in EU is super weak compared to US, like orders of magnitude.
- ponector 3y ago
  It is huge, but still peanuts considering cost of living and prices for housing. Many people just gave up to the dream of real estate ownership. Rent till the death. With 6000 monthly how many years they need to save money for down payment for small apartment? Buying a house is not an option at all for working people.
  - dukeyukey 3y ago
    I don't think that's true. America's home ownership hovers around 65% - in Norway it's 80%; Swedeon 65%; Denmark 59%; Iceland 73%. If anything, a higher percentage of Nordic citizens own houses than Americans.
    - ponector 3y ago
      Someone can live with parents and in statistics they will go into "home owners" bucket. Anyway I'm talking about possibility to buy with current salary and current price. If you like statistics - search for house affordability index.
      - dukeyukey 3y ago
        > Someone can live with parents and in statistics they will go into "home owners" bucket Funnily enough Nordic populations tend to leave home before Americans, so the American figure is even worse than they look. Don't just tell people to look up figures - cite them here please, and why they should overrule the figures saying as many or more Nordic people own their homes than Americans.
tick_tock_tick 3y ago
Yeah but that pay is peanuts. None of that stuff costs even close to enough to justify taking less then half the pay. Don't get me wrong the safety net component is really nice but as long as the goings good it's a hard sell compared to the USA.

And no tipping ! It's hard to really compare between the countries, but I feel like one should almost x2 an EU salary, to get an US equivalent, in terms of quality of life offered.

cassepipe 3y ago

Plus, OP makes 6000 euros a month which really is not nothing.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
6000 a month is huge by EU standards. Most of EU tech workers make way less than that. In Austria you can expect to take home about 3k a month. More is a rare outlier. Outside of big-tech and FAANGS, pay in EU is super weak compared to US, like orders of magnitude.
ponector 3y ago
It is huge, but still peanuts considering cost of living and prices for housing. Many people just gave up to the dream of real estate ownership. Rent till the death. With 6000 monthly how many years they need to save money for down payment for small apartment? Buying a house is not an option at all for working people.
- dukeyukey 3y ago
  I don't think that's true. America's home ownership hovers around 65% - in Norway it's 80%; Swedeon 65%; Denmark 59%; Iceland 73%. If anything, a higher percentage of Nordic citizens own houses than Americans.
  - ponector 3y ago
    Someone can live with parents and in statistics they will go into "home owners" bucket. Anyway I'm talking about possibility to buy with current salary and current price. If you like statistics - search for house affordability index.
    - dukeyukey 3y ago
      > Someone can live with parents and in statistics they will go into "home owners" bucket Funnily enough Nordic populations tend to leave home before Americans, so the American figure is even worse than they look. Don't just tell people to look up figures - cite them here please, and why they should overrule the figures saying as many or more Nordic people own their homes than Americans.

tick_tock_tick 3y ago

Yeah but that pay is peanuts. None of that stuff costs even close to enough to justify taking less then half the pay. Don't get me wrong the safety net component is really nice but as long as the goings good it's a hard sell compared to the USA.