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I'm not sure if I missed it, but why do they call using ChatGPT "cheating"? It's only "cheating" if you are explicitly asked not to use ChatGTP. (Also, not sure

by edanm 3y ago

I'm not sure if I missed it, but why do they call using ChatGPT "cheating"? It's only "cheating" if you are explicitly asked not to use ChatGTP. (Also, not sure if it really counts as cheating, wouldn't it be more like fraud?) Some interviewers wouldn't mind, or would even encourage, using all available tools to solve problems.

notfed 3y ago
For software engineering interviews (all kinds of interviews/tests?), using any outside resource should be assumed to be cheating by default, unless you've asked for, or been given, permission.
- planede 3y ago
  No, I don't think that's reasonable. Any outside resource ranges from pen and paper, a basic calculator to all the books you have, the Internet, ChatGPT and the help of other people. I would say that the only thing that should be assumed implicitly is that it's forbidden to use the help of other people. Anything else should be explicitly laid out. Having said that if some rule is not clear or evident then the interviewee should ask. And they should never be dishonest.
  - ramraj07 3y ago
    Resource here means something with external knowledge. Pen and paper is not a resource in that sense. If you keep an algorithms book and look into it that would be considered cheating as well unless the interviewer pre-agreed that it’s open book so to speak.
- baq 3y ago
  Quite the contrary - this is the exact opposite of how the job looks like. All these resources should be available and the candidate should get a mark for efficiency of their usage. Not using google and/or chatgpt efficiently lowers the grade.
- tmtvl 3y ago
  But look on the bright side: no need to worry about industrial espionage when your employees give the information away for free!
- TrackerFF 3y ago
  Then given them all the tools they can / want to use. If you know a candidate is using tools, you can then recalibrate your questions.

by edanm 3y ago

notfed 3y ago

For software engineering interviews (all kinds of interviews/tests?), using any outside resource should be assumed to be cheating by default, unless you've asked for, or been given, permission.

planede 3y ago
No, I don't think that's reasonable. Any outside resource ranges from pen and paper, a basic calculator to all the books you have, the Internet, ChatGPT and the help of other people. I would say that the only thing that should be assumed implicitly is that it's forbidden to use the help of other people. Anything else should be explicitly laid out. Having said that if some rule is not clear or evident then the interviewee should ask. And they should never be dishonest.
- ramraj07 3y ago
  Resource here means something with external knowledge. Pen and paper is not a resource in that sense. If you keep an algorithms book and look into it that would be considered cheating as well unless the interviewer pre-agreed that it’s open book so to speak.
baq 3y ago
Quite the contrary - this is the exact opposite of how the job looks like. All these resources should be available and the candidate should get a mark for efficiency of their usage. Not using google and/or chatgpt efficiently lowers the grade.
tmtvl 3y ago
But look on the bright side: no need to worry about industrial espionage when your employees give the information away for free!
TrackerFF 3y ago
Then given them all the tools they can / want to use. If you know a candidate is using tools, you can then recalibrate your questions.