Yeah; I’m not claiming either IntelliJ or visual studio are viable replacements for Xcode when you want to make an iPhone or Mac app. My point is that the engin

Yeah; I’m not claiming either IntelliJ or visual studio are viable replacements for Xcode when you want to make an iPhone or Mac app. My point is that the engineering quality of both visual studio and IntelliJ is dramatically better than the engineering quality of Xcode. Building a good, reliable, fast IDE with modern features is clearly a task other software teams have been able to succeed at. Xcode has no excuse for its bugs. It feels like the result of demo driven development - where features are worked on just enough to demo them - either internally or at wwdc. But it takes more work to ship a good product than it does to make a snazzy demo. And, for some reason that work just doesn’t seem to happen in the Xcode team. Not since Xcode version 3 or so.