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> Secular post-modernity is brilliant at giving us power plants, roads, and medicines. Postmodernism hasn’t been around long enough for any of that. Perhaps yo

> Secular post-modernity is brilliant at giving us power plants, roads, and medicines. Postmodernism hasn’t been around long enough for any of that. Perhaps you meant “enlightenment”. It’s the “Age of Reason” that kicked society along this road. Post modernism has given us something else. A set of tools to deconstruct any human concept you can name, until it can be shown as meaningless. Which, I would posit, is the “end of enlightenment”.

kuchenbecker 3y ago
Postmodernism posits that everything is bullshit when you look hard enough. Unfortunately the bullshit is useful when building things.
nonrandomstring 3y ago
Indeed, I was copy-pasting the parent poster's words so as to faithfully respond. Enlightenment, Modernism and Post-modernism all being distinct things, no-one parodies their confusion better than Monty Python; What have the Romans ever done for us? Is Post-modernism the end of Enlightenment? Maybe yes, but not in a 'bad way', simply that post-modernism is the last stage of enlightenment, when a developmental stage has attained self-awareness and self-critical capabilities. First we had to become enlightened in order to see the limits of enlightenment.
lioeters 3y ago
> Post modernism has given us .. a set of tools to deconstruct any human concept you can name, until it can be shown as meaningless. Which, I would posit, is the “end of enlightenment”. I enjoyed reading this pithy summary of post-modernism. As for the parent post: > it's stunted our emotional and social development, bringing us to the brink of total war and social disintegration. This was the doing of "modernism", the age of reason, the enlightenment, and the industrial age. Post-modernism is the questioning and subversion of that grand narrative of objectivity, rationality, science, social progress. From the wasteland of everything deconstructed as meaningless.. Hopefully something new can be born, maybe even a "spiritual language in the vocabulary of science and empiricism".

kuchenbecker 3y ago

Postmodernism posits that everything is bullshit when you look hard enough. Unfortunately the bullshit is useful when building things.

nonrandomstring 3y ago

Indeed, I was copy-pasting the parent poster's words so as to faithfully respond. Enlightenment, Modernism and Post-modernism all being distinct things, no-one parodies their confusion better than Monty Python; What have the Romans ever done for us? Is Post-modernism the end of Enlightenment? Maybe yes, but not in a 'bad way', simply that post-modernism is the last stage of enlightenment, when a developmental stage has attained self-awareness and self-critical capabilities. First we had to become enlightened in order to see the limits of enlightenment.

lioeters 3y ago

> Post modernism has given us .. a set of tools to deconstruct any human concept you can name, until it can be shown as meaningless. Which, I would posit, is the “end of enlightenment”. I enjoyed reading this pithy summary of post-modernism. As for the parent post: > it's stunted our emotional and social development, bringing us to the brink of total war and social disintegration. This was the doing of "modernism", the age of reason, the enlightenment, and the industrial age. Post-modernism is the questioning and subversion of that grand narrative of objectivity, rationality, science, social progress. From the wasteland of everything deconstructed as meaningless.. Hopefully something new can be born, maybe even a "spiritual language in the vocabulary of science and empiricism".