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this makes sense... but I don't think they should have removed the audio jack from any of their product

by ijhuygft776 3y ago

ActorNightly 3y ago
USBC headphones make more sense. Unified port for all accessories.
- justworkout 3y ago
  If that were to be the reasoning, the least they could do is provide 2 ports on phones so nobody needs a dongle to listen while charging.
  - ActorNightly 3y ago
    Phones should have 2 ports, but Macs have 3 already
  - inopinatus 3y ago
    This is the sole reason I own a wireless charging pad.
    - pzo 3y ago
      sometimes you want to not only charge but also pass data via cable to macbook. Wifi has latency, airpods bluetooth also has latency. It the past it was easy when you could still connect iphone/ipad to macbook via cable and still connect headset for mic and speakers. I tested a lot of splitter adapters and they allowed only to use headset speakers (no mic) and charge (no data)
- YeBanKo 3y ago
  Why though? Audio jack delivers pretty much all you need functionality for headphones and plenty of existing hardware. iPod Shuffle 3d gen was tiny, had only 3.5mm for data transfer and charging. They remove headphone jack in iPhone 7 and added USB-C in iPhone 15. So for almost a decade the only option was proprietary lighting or bluetooth, probably resulted in a significant amount of e-waste.
- ijhuygft776 3y ago
  What would make even more sense is a round USB plug to make it even easier to plug it in. I'm just tired of losing my Bluetooth earbuds
pat2man 3y ago
The current MacBook Pro has an audio jack…
- willsmith72 3y ago
  yep, wouldn't have bought it without it. that and the lack of touch bar make the latest models awesome
- thesuitonym 3y ago
  Yes but the GP's point still remains, they shouldn't have removed it from ANY device.
arvinsim 3y ago
The lack of audio jack in my iPad Pro is the main reason why I abandoned music production on iOS and just do it with my Macbook Pro.
Mistletoe 3y ago
I think there’s only one real reason they removed the audio jack. This is so gross: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/n5m2xp/oc_airpods_revenue_vs_top_tech_companies/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/n5m2xp/oc_...
- jwells89 3y ago
  I’m sure that removal of the headphone jack helped drive sales, but it’s worth remembering that AirPods were also some of the first bluetooth earbuds that were good enough for mass market appeal, and for usage with phones especially wires can get pretty irritating. A lot more people probably would’ve switched years earlier had other companies released bluetooth headphones on par with first gen AirPods.
- diebeforei485 3y ago
  They were definitely motivated to sell more AirPods, but Bluetooth has been a clear quality of life improvement for most people (except when using the microphone, where Bluetooth has been a quality downgrade), and the 3.5mm jack takes up a lot of space inside phones. I'd have preferred they made a true replacement - a new wireless standard for example.
- ijhuygft776 3y ago
  I don't think I believe these numbers... I know they are way overpriced because I paid $30 for my "clones" but still... I also hate them because they are too easy to lose

this makes sense... but I don't think they should have removed the audio jack from any of their product

ActorNightly 3y ago

USBC headphones make more sense. Unified port for all accessories.

justworkout 3y ago
If that were to be the reasoning, the least they could do is provide 2 ports on phones so nobody needs a dongle to listen while charging.
- ActorNightly 3y ago
  Phones should have 2 ports, but Macs have 3 already
- inopinatus 3y ago
  This is the sole reason I own a wireless charging pad.
  - pzo 3y ago
    sometimes you want to not only charge but also pass data via cable to macbook. Wifi has latency, airpods bluetooth also has latency. It the past it was easy when you could still connect iphone/ipad to macbook via cable and still connect headset for mic and speakers. I tested a lot of splitter adapters and they allowed only to use headset speakers (no mic) and charge (no data)
YeBanKo 3y ago
Why though? Audio jack delivers pretty much all you need functionality for headphones and plenty of existing hardware. iPod Shuffle 3d gen was tiny, had only 3.5mm for data transfer and charging. They remove headphone jack in iPhone 7 and added USB-C in iPhone 15. So for almost a decade the only option was proprietary lighting or bluetooth, probably resulted in a significant amount of e-waste.
ijhuygft776 3y ago
What would make even more sense is a round USB plug to make it even easier to plug it in. I'm just tired of losing my Bluetooth earbuds

pat2man 3y ago

The current MacBook Pro has an audio jack…

willsmith72 3y ago
yep, wouldn't have bought it without it. that and the lack of touch bar make the latest models awesome
thesuitonym 3y ago
Yes but the GP's point still remains, they shouldn't have removed it from ANY device.

arvinsim 3y ago

The lack of audio jack in my iPad Pro is the main reason why I abandoned music production on iOS and just do it with my Macbook Pro.

Mistletoe 3y ago

I think there’s only one real reason they removed the audio jack. This is so gross: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/n5m2xp/oc_airpods_revenue_vs_top_tech_companies/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/n5m2xp/oc_...

jwells89 3y ago
I’m sure that removal of the headphone jack helped drive sales, but it’s worth remembering that AirPods were also some of the first bluetooth earbuds that were good enough for mass market appeal, and for usage with phones especially wires can get pretty irritating. A lot more people probably would’ve switched years earlier had other companies released bluetooth headphones on par with first gen AirPods.
diebeforei485 3y ago
They were definitely motivated to sell more AirPods, but Bluetooth has been a clear quality of life improvement for most people (except when using the microphone, where Bluetooth has been a quality downgrade), and the 3.5mm jack takes up a lot of space inside phones. I'd have preferred they made a true replacement - a new wireless standard for example.
ijhuygft776 3y ago
I don't think I believe these numbers... I know they are way overpriced because I paid $30 for my "clones" but still... I also hate them because they are too easy to lose