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> it had been held for centuries[1] that shareholder-owned corporations also had responsibilities to society and the general public, as well as to their industr
by gottorf 3y ago
> it had been held for centuries[1] that shareholder-owned corporations also had responsibilities to society and the general public, as well as to their industry and their employees.
For centuries[0], governments were very limited, and other organized institutions of human life, like churches and businesses, held duties to the public at large.
Government spending as a percentage of GDP in the US, for example, remained in the single digits for most of its history[1] (outside of wartime), with a big bump post-WW2, then another big bump in the 70s with the Great Society programs, leading up to the current figure of a little over a third of the economy[2].
For an even longer view, government spending in the UK from the late 1600s and onward hovered around 10% with the same wartime jumps[3] for centuries, until the two world wars and the permanent expansion of the welfare state, hanging on around 45% now.
So, it's a very reasonable view to say that governments around the world started to take a much more sizable role in such "responsibilities" to society, and crowded out private efforts in those arenas. In effect, redistributive taxes are supposed to take place of those previously responsible.
[0]: Millennia, really; for most of civilized human existence.
[1]: https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/short-history-government-taxing-and-spending-united-states/ https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/short-history...
[2]: https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/exp@FPP/USA/FRA/JPN/GBR/SWE/ESP/ITA/ZAF/IND https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/exp@FPP/USA/FRA/JPN/...
[3]: https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-8265/CBP-8265.pdf https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-...
- Karellen 3y agoThose aren't totally unreasonable points, but I feel like they're somewhat undercut by: a) the people who advocate most strongly for the Friedman Doctrine (maximising shareholder value at all costs) also seem to be the people who most want to abolish (or prevent) government-provided safety nets, like state pensions, or universal healthcare, or public education, or UBI. It doesn't seem like it's a "Well, so long as we have these valuable strong public institutions, we might as well see how taking the reigns off private investment turns out" type situation, as much as it is a "I got mine, fuck you" libertarian class-warfare fantasy. b) the idea that the public programs we have are expansive and comprehensive enough to have "crowded out private efforts in those areas" feels like a stretch to me.