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> With superior efficiency in terms of latency and size, MobileDiffusion has the potential to be a very friendly option for mobile deployments given its capabil

> With superior efficiency in terms of latency and size, MobileDiffusion has the potential to be a very friendly option for mobile deployments given its capability to enable a rapid image generation experience while typing text prompts. And we will ensure any application of this technology will be in-line with Google’s responsible AI practices. So I'm interpreting this that it won't ever get released.

Legend2440 3y ago
I would interpret it as "expect to see this powering some features in the next-generation Pixel".
- jsheard 3y ago
  We've already seen this progression - they debuted Magic Eraser as a cloud feature, then with the Pixel 8 they got it running locally on the device. But they also introduced Magic Editor with the Pixel 8, running on the cloud, and the Pixel 9 or 10 will probably run it on-device.
  - ollin 3y ago
    it may turn out more like the imagen timeline 2022-05 - google imagen research paper posted https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31484562 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31484562 2022-12 - imagen developers leave google to form ideogram 2023-08 - ideogram ships a version of imagen, free, for anyone who wants to use it https://ideogram.ai/publicly-available https://ideogram.ai/publicly-available 2023-12 - google "imagen 2" is officially "generally available for Vertex AI customers on the allowlist (i.e., approved for access)." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38628417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38628417
kccqzy 3y ago
I'm interpreting it as they will be adding a layer of safety restrictions. Understandable given the furore of the recent Taylor Swift generated image incident. Everyone needs to do this and probably is already doing this. Search for "ChatGPT lobotomized" and you'll see plenty of complaints about the safety filters added by OpenAI.
- babyshake 3y ago
  I'm much more comfortable with the idea of AI watermarking images it creates instead of refusing to create images because of "safety", which in practice more often means not wanting to offend anyone. Imagine if word processors like Google Docs refused to write things you wanted to write because of mature themes. The important thing, in my opinion, is to make it a lot more difficult to pass off AI generated content as being authentic and to make provenance traceable if you were to do something like create revenge porn with AI, but not to make AI refuse to create explicit material at all.
  - AlecSchueler 3y ago
    It being authentic or not isn't actually important in a lot of cases though. Consider someone like Mia Janin, who recently took her own life after been harassed using deepfakes. Everyone understood that the images weren't "authentic" but their power to cause distress was very real.
    - theultdev 3y ago
      Is there a difference between being harassed with deepfakes vs fakes? Photoshop has the power to cause distress too when used maliciously. You go after the aggressors, not the tool used for aggression.
      - AlecSchueler 3y ago
        Ease of use and accessibility. Think of how we control access to guns even though a baseball bat could also be used to kill or maim someone. I agree that we should legislate against the aggressors, that's why I'm pointing out the limitations of technical solutions like watermarks. We need extensions to things like revenge pornography laws, if we're talking about legislation, and I don't see any harm in outlawing services that automate the creation of deepfakes. Of course the only "solution" is that we would universally behind to teach young boys that they are not entitled to women's bodies or their sexuality, but so many grown men apparently disagree that I can't see it happening quickly enough.

Legend2440 3y ago

I would interpret it as "expect to see this powering some features in the next-generation Pixel".

jsheard 3y ago
We've already seen this progression - they debuted Magic Eraser as a cloud feature, then with the Pixel 8 they got it running locally on the device. But they also introduced Magic Editor with the Pixel 8, running on the cloud, and the Pixel 9 or 10 will probably run it on-device.
- ollin 3y ago
  it may turn out more like the imagen timeline 2022-05 - google imagen research paper posted https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31484562 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31484562 2022-12 - imagen developers leave google to form ideogram 2023-08 - ideogram ships a version of imagen, free, for anyone who wants to use it https://ideogram.ai/publicly-available https://ideogram.ai/publicly-available 2023-12 - google "imagen 2" is officially "generally available for Vertex AI customers on the allowlist (i.e., approved for access)." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38628417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38628417

kccqzy 3y ago

I'm interpreting it as they will be adding a layer of safety restrictions. Understandable given the furore of the recent Taylor Swift generated image incident. Everyone needs to do this and probably is already doing this. Search for "ChatGPT lobotomized" and you'll see plenty of complaints about the safety filters added by OpenAI.

babyshake 3y ago
I'm much more comfortable with the idea of AI watermarking images it creates instead of refusing to create images because of "safety", which in practice more often means not wanting to offend anyone. Imagine if word processors like Google Docs refused to write things you wanted to write because of mature themes. The important thing, in my opinion, is to make it a lot more difficult to pass off AI generated content as being authentic and to make provenance traceable if you were to do something like create revenge porn with AI, but not to make AI refuse to create explicit material at all.
- AlecSchueler 3y ago
  It being authentic or not isn't actually important in a lot of cases though. Consider someone like Mia Janin, who recently took her own life after been harassed using deepfakes. Everyone understood that the images weren't "authentic" but their power to cause distress was very real.
  - theultdev 3y ago
    Is there a difference between being harassed with deepfakes vs fakes? Photoshop has the power to cause distress too when used maliciously. You go after the aggressors, not the tool used for aggression.
    - AlecSchueler 3y ago
      Ease of use and accessibility. Think of how we control access to guns even though a baseball bat could also be used to kill or maim someone. I agree that we should legislate against the aggressors, that's why I'm pointing out the limitations of technical solutions like watermarks. We need extensions to things like revenge pornography laws, if we're talking about legislation, and I don't see any harm in outlawing services that automate the creation of deepfakes. Of course the only "solution" is that we would universally behind to teach young boys that they are not entitled to women's bodies or their sexuality, but so many grown men apparently disagree that I can't see it happening quickly enough.