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I am always baffled at how US businesses can pretty much do and get away with anything they want, with little to no concequences. I'm not saying where I live is

I am always baffled at how US businesses can pretty much do and get away with anything they want, with little to no concequences. I'm not saying where I live is perfect but every time there's a scandal here I only need to look to the US to see we don't have it that bad.

deepfriedchokes 3y ago
Regulatory capture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture In Capitalism, eventually capital owns everything.
- thaumasiotes 3y ago
  That's true by definition in all systems, since capital consists of all the stuff that can be owned. It's not very interesting; tautologies tend not to be.
  - deepfriedchokes 3y ago
    Mate, I think you’re being a bit pedantic, which doesn’t add anything to the conversation.
wmf 3y ago
This is a story about a company not getting away with something. In general the US has turned the dial very far to the free speech side, even for advertising.
- danpalmer 3y ago
  But it is a story about a company who tried something that was obviously invalid and that most companies in, say, Europe, would never even think to try. And they got away with it for 4 years.
- blagie 3y ago
  The dial should be turned very high on the free speech side. The problem is that companies are treated as the "corporate person," which is complete nonsense. This isn't about pro/anti-business. It's just that companies aren't people, don't have rights, and good business regulation looks nothing like good human regulation. The Constitution, Universal Declaration of Human Rights, etc. are great document for rights of humans. They don't apply well to things which aren't humans. That's not even to say other constructs don't or shouldn't have rights. They're just not the same rights.
lostmsu 3y ago
TBH, unless they used this branding for their mobile network or advertised it without actually being able to provide 10 Gbps fiber, I don't see why they were slapped.
wildrhythms 3y ago
Our government is a gerontocracy; our representatives don't even have the vocabulary to discuss these issues at any real depth.

deepfriedchokes 3y ago

Regulatory capture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture In Capitalism, eventually capital owns everything.

thaumasiotes 3y ago
That's true by definition in all systems, since capital consists of all the stuff that can be owned. It's not very interesting; tautologies tend not to be.
- deepfriedchokes 3y ago
  Mate, I think you’re being a bit pedantic, which doesn’t add anything to the conversation.

wmf 3y ago

This is a story about a company not getting away with something. In general the US has turned the dial very far to the free speech side, even for advertising.

danpalmer 3y ago
But it is a story about a company who tried something that was obviously invalid and that most companies in, say, Europe, would never even think to try. And they got away with it for 4 years.
blagie 3y ago
The dial should be turned very high on the free speech side. The problem is that companies are treated as the "corporate person," which is complete nonsense. This isn't about pro/anti-business. It's just that companies aren't people, don't have rights, and good business regulation looks nothing like good human regulation. The Constitution, Universal Declaration of Human Rights, etc. are great document for rights of humans. They don't apply well to things which aren't humans. That's not even to say other constructs don't or shouldn't have rights. They're just not the same rights.

lostmsu 3y ago

TBH, unless they used this branding for their mobile network or advertised it without actually being able to provide 10 Gbps fiber, I don't see why they were slapped.

wildrhythms 3y ago

Our government is a gerontocracy; our representatives don't even have the vocabulary to discuss these issues at any real depth.