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On the contrary... way too many people see "AI can do X", "AI can do Y", "I can draw an imaginary line between X, Y and Z", "therefore AI can totally maybe do Z
by zeofig 3y ago
On the contrary... way too many people see "AI can do X", "AI can do Y", "I can draw an imaginary line between X, Y and Z", "therefore AI can totally maybe do Z". The fact that we "just don't know" doesn't mean anything. You just don't know if Jesus will return tomorrow and bring the rapture.
- pixl97 3y agoThe probability that Jesus will return tomorrow is extremely low if not zero. When talking about the probability of AI doing X or Y the probability is much closer to 1 if physics allows it.
- groggo 3y agoI appreciate that you acknowledge there's at least a chance.
- zeofig 3y agoIf physics allows it... a considerable assumption. In my view physics (or mathematics, or whatever) doesn't even allow an LLM to "reason", let alone manufacture novel bioweapons. The probability of Jesus returning is considerable too if we assume the bible is true.
- marcellus23 3y agoWhat if you ignore LLMs specifically? I think that's the point that the GP was making. Do you believe it's mathematically impossible for any artificial machine to "reason"? Or just LLMs?
- drowsspa 3y agoI'm guessing the answer will be soul or something of sorts. Not even based on the previous comments, even non-religious people seem to have this supernatural view of a soul.
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- Libcat99 3y agoIf humans can reason, then physics allows it, and software can too, eventually.
- knightoffaith 3y agoWhy doesn't physics or mathematics allow LLMs to reason?
- Vecr 3y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39173034 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39173034 If this paper replicates, LLM-like large transformer models can approximate Solomonoff induction pretty well, with other neural net types showing clear evidence of generalizing outside the training distribution. If substantial efficiency improvements get implemented and new architectures get developed, that's game over. The AI is smarter than you, and can trivially be made into an agent by having the approximate Solomonoff induction section simulate the behavior of an agent in the real world, and then having another section change the real world to match the simulation by controlling the real-world agent, creating a full cybernetic system, a closed loop.