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People are allowed to use Google in an interview, why not ChatGPT..? If you interview with a company that won’t let you use the tools you would use in your day

People are allowed to use Google in an interview, why not ChatGPT..? If you interview with a company that won’t let you use the tools you would use in your day job, it’s not somewhere worth working.

Aurornis 3y ago
I've hosted interviews where candidates can use Google to look up documentation and such. If I saw a candidate using Google or GitHub search to try to look up the entire solution then I'd stop them. That's missing the point.
rTX5CMRXIfFG 3y ago
> People are allowed to use Google in an interview I’m sorry but lol no. There are many places where you can’t do that in an interview because there are many employers that want to test for technical knowledge, not knowledge of tools, which anyone can learn on the job and which change as fast as fads come and go. I find this entire thread astounding in how so many people come in the defense of ignorance and outright incompetence. If ChatGPT responses were enough to do a job, then why would a company hire a human? There would be very little value add from a warm body than just paying for the ChatGPT API and automating integration. And corollary to that: if your job is possible to do with a huge number of AI tools, then your work is likely the menial kind and you should seriously dread being laid off and being obsoleted in the near future.
- georgemcbay 3y ago
  I'm pretty skeptical of GPT/LLMs in general (I think they can be a fantastic tool, but I think their current abilities to generate creative solutions are wildly overblown even by a lot of people that should recognize their limitations better), but in response to this: > If ChatGPT responses were enough to do a job, then why would a company hire a human? By the same token if ChatGPT responses are enough to pass the interview, then how can you believe your interview process isn't fundamentally broken? And if ChatGPT responses aren't enough to pass the interview, then who cares if people use them? If the interview properly models the job being hired for those candidates should either fail the interview or not depending upon their ability to leap back and forth between the tool and their own ability to make use of its output which should map very well to their ability to do the same in an actual work capacity.
- randmeerkat 3y ago
  > And corollary to that: if your job is possible to do with a huge number of AI tools, then your work is likely the menial kind and you should seriously dread being laid off and being obsoleted in the near future. I bet you’re fun at parties. In all seriousness though, most IT work is menial and mundane. Backends are backends, front ends are front ends, and data moves between the two. People like to overcomplicate “tech” I think largely because of insecurity issues. Now that said, some emerging industries such as the budding corporate space race do require advanced technical knowledge. Yet for some reason glorified grocery apps want rocket engineers at their company when an average engineer could just muck around with mundane tools and piecemeal something together. The truth is the kind of gate keeping you’re advocating for is what limits businesses from realizing value quickly and is designed to artificially limit hiring.

Aurornis 3y ago

I've hosted interviews where candidates can use Google to look up documentation and such. If I saw a candidate using Google or GitHub search to try to look up the entire solution then I'd stop them. That's missing the point.

rTX5CMRXIfFG 3y ago

> People are allowed to use Google in an interview I’m sorry but lol no. There are many places where you can’t do that in an interview because there are many employers that want to test for technical knowledge, not knowledge of tools, which anyone can learn on the job and which change as fast as fads come and go. I find this entire thread astounding in how so many people come in the defense of ignorance and outright incompetence. If ChatGPT responses were enough to do a job, then why would a company hire a human? There would be very little value add from a warm body than just paying for the ChatGPT API and automating integration. And corollary to that: if your job is possible to do with a huge number of AI tools, then your work is likely the menial kind and you should seriously dread being laid off and being obsoleted in the near future.

georgemcbay 3y ago
I'm pretty skeptical of GPT/LLMs in general (I think they can be a fantastic tool, but I think their current abilities to generate creative solutions are wildly overblown even by a lot of people that should recognize their limitations better), but in response to this: > If ChatGPT responses were enough to do a job, then why would a company hire a human? By the same token if ChatGPT responses are enough to pass the interview, then how can you believe your interview process isn't fundamentally broken? And if ChatGPT responses aren't enough to pass the interview, then who cares if people use them? If the interview properly models the job being hired for those candidates should either fail the interview or not depending upon their ability to leap back and forth between the tool and their own ability to make use of its output which should map very well to their ability to do the same in an actual work capacity.
randmeerkat 3y ago
> And corollary to that: if your job is possible to do with a huge number of AI tools, then your work is likely the menial kind and you should seriously dread being laid off and being obsoleted in the near future. I bet you’re fun at parties. In all seriousness though, most IT work is menial and mundane. Backends are backends, front ends are front ends, and data moves between the two. People like to overcomplicate “tech” I think largely because of insecurity issues. Now that said, some emerging industries such as the budding corporate space race do require advanced technical knowledge. Yet for some reason glorified grocery apps want rocket engineers at their company when an average engineer could just muck around with mundane tools and piecemeal something together. The truth is the kind of gate keeping you’re advocating for is what limits businesses from realizing value quickly and is designed to artificially limit hiring.