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I think it was a good enough apology. What was insufficient?

kennedywm 3y ago
A good apology includes taking responsibility for the negative outcomes you’ve caused as well as how you’ve made changes to ensure the harm doesn’t occur again. Here, you have the latter but not the former. He also didn’t explicitly apologize.
- patientzero 3y ago
  I don't see either element, how is continuing to do such a great job you lead the industry a change that could have a new outcome? One may presume industry will get better and force maintaining an industry leading result to become an adequate result to address the problem, but that is still leaving the impetus of any change to an outside force.
cowboyscott 3y ago
An apology acknowledges wrong doing. Zuckerberg expressed sorrow about a thing that happened, then pats meta (himself) on the back for their “industry leading” moderation.
CharlesW 3y ago
> I think it was a good enough apology. What was insufficient? It's an expression of sympathy and a commitment to prevent future occurrences of whatever caused the suffering, using language approved by a legal team. It's an explicit non-apology, since an apology would be an admission of fault or wrongdoing.
- iwontberude 3y ago
  I see what you are saying in isolation, but in the midst of the hearing, it read and sounded like an apology. The context is pretty damning.
mc32 3y ago
He does not take responsibility for what has happened. He only acknowledges an abstract problem. [someone cheated on their partner]: Cheating is reprehensible and should not happen... [as opposed to, I'm sorry for having cheated and hurt you, etc...]
AndrewKemendo 3y ago
Does not take accountability, and uses passive terms so that they do not directly admit culpability. "We measurably harmed you and are going to compensate you thusly" His legal team will not allow that verbiage because it opens the door to basically infinite lawsuits
2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
An apology contains phrases such as I'm sorry or my apologies.
latentcall 3y ago
An apology should be heartfelt while acknowledging responsibility and showing you’re taking real measures to not do it again. What he said was fumbling legalese and besides, I am not so sure Mr. Zuckerberg has a heart. You don’t get to his position in the world by having one.
cush 3y ago
He didn’t say “I’m sorry.”, for one.

A good apology includes taking responsibility for the negative outcomes you’ve caused as well as how you’ve made changes to ensure the harm doesn’t occur again. Here, you have the latter but not the former. He also didn’t explicitly apologize.

patientzero 3y ago
I don't see either element, how is continuing to do such a great job you lead the industry a change that could have a new outcome? One may presume industry will get better and force maintaining an industry leading result to become an adequate result to address the problem, but that is still leaving the impetus of any change to an outside force.

cowboyscott 3y ago

An apology acknowledges wrong doing. Zuckerberg expressed sorrow about a thing that happened, then pats meta (himself) on the back for their “industry leading” moderation.

CharlesW 3y ago

> I think it was a good enough apology. What was insufficient? It's an expression of sympathy and a commitment to prevent future occurrences of whatever caused the suffering, using language approved by a legal team. It's an explicit non-apology, since an apology would be an admission of fault or wrongdoing.

iwontberude 3y ago
I see what you are saying in isolation, but in the midst of the hearing, it read and sounded like an apology. The context is pretty damning.

mc32 3y ago

He does not take responsibility for what has happened. He only acknowledges an abstract problem. [someone cheated on their partner]: Cheating is reprehensible and should not happen... [as opposed to, I'm sorry for having cheated and hurt you, etc...]

AndrewKemendo 3y ago

Does not take accountability, and uses passive terms so that they do not directly admit culpability. "We measurably harmed you and are going to compensate you thusly" His legal team will not allow that verbiage because it opens the door to basically infinite lawsuits

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago

An apology contains phrases such as I'm sorry or my apologies.

latentcall 3y ago

An apology should be heartfelt while acknowledging responsibility and showing you’re taking real measures to not do it again. What he said was fumbling legalese and besides, I am not so sure Mr. Zuckerberg has a heart. You don’t get to his position in the world by having one.

cush 3y ago

He didn’t say “I’m sorry.”, for one.