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I’ve received death threats from representatives of local non profits for advocating to build more houses in San Francisco. It’s not that surprising when people

I’ve received death threats from representatives of local non profits for advocating to build more houses in San Francisco. It’s not that surprising when people observe that the outrage over this incident is arguably insincere, even if the original tweet was inappropriate.

ceejayoz 3y ago
Surely the takeaway here is "death threats bad", not "death threats good"?
- shuckles 3y ago
  Those aren’t the only options. “Death threats bad, but this one overblown for political reasons” is perfectly within the realm of reasonable opinion. Across the bay, an actual supervisor resigned last week due to real and persistent death threats. Yet somehow that is not getting nearly the attention that a retracted tweet is. Similarly, Scott Wiener the local state senator has been harassed by online trolls for years and has needed a security detail posted at his house. Yet the same politicians crying foul over a tweet could not bring themselves to pass a resolution condemning death threats against him by actual psychos because Wiener is not in their political faction.
  - danso 3y ago
    Because the supes didn’t formally pass a resolution about Scott Wiener, it’s hypocritical of them to informally criticize any kind of dear threat?
    - shuckles 3y ago
      No that’s not what I said. Also, they haven’t “informally criticized” a death threat. They’ve asked the city attorney to draft a law against it and filed police reports, in addition to having their favorite reporters prolong the news cycle. Don’t downplay the extent of the pearl clutching.
dheera 3y ago
This is the main reason I'm not currently registered to vote. The f-ers at the voting offices leaked my address without my permission, and then I de-registered and moved. I don't currently have anything worthy of a death threat but if I ever do in the future, I'd prefer the public not know where I sleep. Also, f all forms of KYC. Half of those companies end up getting hacked or leaking data at some point in the future.
- travoc 3y ago
  Voter registration information, including voter address, is public information. Nobody leaked it. They gave your address to someone who asked, in accordance with the law.
  - dheera 3y ago
    > Voter registration information, including voter address, is public information. Nobody leaked it. People keep parroting this but it shouldn't be public information. Personal safety is more important than the law, as is established in the universal unalienable rights. Where I sleep is emphatically NOT public information. Period. Until the law is changed to ensure my physical safety I see no reason to re-register.
    - sarlalian 3y ago
      Shouldn't and is required to by law are two different things. So yeah, maybe it shouldn't be public information, but the fact that it is, and is legally required to be, means that your information wasn't "leaked".
      - dheera 3y ago
        No, it was leaked, against my consent. The government doing something against my personal safety and consent in the name of the law doesn't make it not a leak.

ceejayoz 3y ago

Surely the takeaway here is "death threats bad", not "death threats good"?

shuckles 3y ago
Those aren’t the only options. “Death threats bad, but this one overblown for political reasons” is perfectly within the realm of reasonable opinion. Across the bay, an actual supervisor resigned last week due to real and persistent death threats. Yet somehow that is not getting nearly the attention that a retracted tweet is. Similarly, Scott Wiener the local state senator has been harassed by online trolls for years and has needed a security detail posted at his house. Yet the same politicians crying foul over a tweet could not bring themselves to pass a resolution condemning death threats against him by actual psychos because Wiener is not in their political faction.
- danso 3y ago
  Because the supes didn’t formally pass a resolution about Scott Wiener, it’s hypocritical of them to informally criticize any kind of dear threat?
  - shuckles 3y ago
    No that’s not what I said. Also, they haven’t “informally criticized” a death threat. They’ve asked the city attorney to draft a law against it and filed police reports, in addition to having their favorite reporters prolong the news cycle. Don’t downplay the extent of the pearl clutching.

dheera 3y ago

This is the main reason I'm not currently registered to vote. The f-ers at the voting offices leaked my address without my permission, and then I de-registered and moved. I don't currently have anything worthy of a death threat but if I ever do in the future, I'd prefer the public not know where I sleep. Also, f all forms of KYC. Half of those companies end up getting hacked or leaking data at some point in the future.

travoc 3y ago
Voter registration information, including voter address, is public information. Nobody leaked it. They gave your address to someone who asked, in accordance with the law.
- dheera 3y ago
  > Voter registration information, including voter address, is public information. Nobody leaked it. People keep parroting this but it shouldn't be public information. Personal safety is more important than the law, as is established in the universal unalienable rights. Where I sleep is emphatically NOT public information. Period. Until the law is changed to ensure my physical safety I see no reason to re-register.
  - sarlalian 3y ago
    Shouldn't and is required to by law are two different things. So yeah, maybe it shouldn't be public information, but the fact that it is, and is legally required to be, means that your information wasn't "leaked".
    - dheera 3y ago
      No, it was leaked, against my consent. The government doing something against my personal safety and consent in the name of the law doesn't make it not a leak.