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If it's purely the question of cost per employee in favor of open office, why don't companies charge for private offices? I hope nobody actually believes that o

by densh 3y ago

If it's purely the question of cost per employee in favor of open office, why don't companies charge for private offices? I hope nobody actually believes that open office is measurably better in any other way.

malfist 3y ago
You think your employer should be able to charge you to give you a better working environment?
- zajio1am 3y ago
  There is always an implicit tradeoff of working in company A with one tuple of salary / working environment, or working in company B with another tuple of salary / working environment. If we eliminate tuples that are dominated by others then we end with a curve of equipreferencial points, representing such tradeoffs. If such tradeoffs are offered by different companies, there is no reason why they should not be also offered as by one company.
madeofpalk 3y ago
Charge who? I'm certainly not interested in paying/taking a pay cut to generate more value for my employer.
- chronic94040 3y ago
  > I'm certainly not interested in paying/taking a pay cut to generate more value for my employer. Well you are breaking your employment contract by not giving “best effort”. If your management finds out, they should fire you.
  - madeofpalk 3y ago
    lol
jan3024-2r 3y ago
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ThrowawayR2 3y ago
I'd happily take a reasonable pay reduction for a private office but, as you can see, most people wouldn't. Rather shortsighted of them since the increased productivity pays off in bonuses and career growth.
- BanazirGalbasi 3y ago
  > the increased productivity pays off in bonuses and career growth Anecdotally, neither I nor my friends have seen this happen. Putting in more effort just leads to an increased workload along with a "Meets Expectations" during annual reviews. I have a great manager now but their hands are tied as far as bonuses, promotions, and raises go. It's a bad sign when the best benefit I get is that my workload isn't cranked up because I complete tasks more efficiently. I'm still young, but I doubt that I'll see anything similar to a bonus or significant pay raise due to performance in my career. I still put in my best effort, but I don't see any reason to take a pay hit to get better working conditions if I'm not going to get rewarded later down the line like you assume will happen.

by densh 3y ago

malfist 3y ago

You think your employer should be able to charge you to give you a better working environment?

zajio1am 3y ago
There is always an implicit tradeoff of working in company A with one tuple of salary / working environment, or working in company B with another tuple of salary / working environment. If we eliminate tuples that are dominated by others then we end with a curve of equipreferencial points, representing such tradeoffs. If such tradeoffs are offered by different companies, there is no reason why they should not be also offered as by one company.

madeofpalk 3y ago

Charge who? I'm certainly not interested in paying/taking a pay cut to generate more value for my employer.

chronic94040 3y ago
> I'm certainly not interested in paying/taking a pay cut to generate more value for my employer. Well you are breaking your employment contract by not giving “best effort”. If your management finds out, they should fire you.
- madeofpalk 3y ago
  lol

jan3024-2r 3y ago

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ThrowawayR2 3y ago

I'd happily take a reasonable pay reduction for a private office but, as you can see, most people wouldn't. Rather shortsighted of them since the increased productivity pays off in bonuses and career growth.

BanazirGalbasi 3y ago
> the increased productivity pays off in bonuses and career growth Anecdotally, neither I nor my friends have seen this happen. Putting in more effort just leads to an increased workload along with a "Meets Expectations" during annual reviews. I have a great manager now but their hands are tied as far as bonuses, promotions, and raises go. It's a bad sign when the best benefit I get is that my workload isn't cranked up because I complete tasks more efficiently. I'm still young, but I doubt that I'll see anything similar to a bonus or significant pay raise due to performance in my career. I still put in my best effort, but I don't see any reason to take a pay hit to get better working conditions if I'm not going to get rewarded later down the line like you assume will happen.