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Correct me if I’m wrong but we wouldn’t bottlenecked by this one ship if not for the Jones act. Sounds to me like you saw Cato (certainly not a “rag”) and went

Correct me if I’m wrong but we wouldn’t bottlenecked by this one ship if not for the Jones act. Sounds to me like you saw Cato (certainly not a “rag”) and went in looking for a reason to disagree.

elil17 3y ago
Perhaps not a “rag” since that implies it’s a newspaper. But it’s definitely a right-wing advocacy group, not an unbiased source.
- whimsicalism 3y ago
  It is a RW think tank. I disagree that there is such thing as an unbiased source.
- dylan604 3y ago
  When their about page clearly states they are libertarian and yet you claim they are right-wing just shows you're not really informed about the situation
  - elil17 3y ago
    In American politics, Libertarianism is used to refer to a flavor of right wing thinking focused on laissez-faire capitalism. I understand that the term has a different meaning in other contexts. I'll add that I more or less agree with the Cato Institute on this particular issue. I just think it's absolutely fair to highlight that this is an article coming from a source with an agenda.
  - whimsicalism 3y ago
    Libertarian is rw in US
redserk 3y ago
I interpreted it as a mildly self-deprecating joke on the author's choice of usual reading materials. However, if we're going to be pedantic... the informal jab can work if the author doesn't respect the what is published by the CATO institute. If we're wanting to be true to the term, "rag" doesn't fit because the article is an opinion blog post, not published in a newspaper or magazine. > informal > a newspaper or magazine that is considered to be of bad quality: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rag https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rag > Informal. > ... > a newspaper or magazine regarded with contempt or distaste: Are you still subscribing to that rag? https://www.dictionary.com/browse/rags https://www.dictionary.com/browse/rags
- whimsicalism 3y ago
  > However, if we're going to be pedantic... the informal jab can work if the author doesn't respect the what is published by the CATO institute. I know what the words mean and the potential self-deprecation? But I don’t think we should characterize high quality publications we disagree with as low quality.
  - redserk 3y ago
    If you're going to oppose another poster's use of the word "rag", why are you labeling the same source as "high quality"? Neither are objective descriptors. This is hypocrisy.
    - whimsicalism 3y ago
      What? I think it is a high quality pub (that I mostly disagree with) so I object to it being called a rag. I’m not objecting to the use of adjectives or non-objective descriptors writ large and I have no idea where you got that idea. "Rag" is a word we typically use for publications like NYPost, not an article by a research fellow at a think-tank. I suspect the usage here is motivated by political animus.

elil17 3y ago

Perhaps not a “rag” since that implies it’s a newspaper. But it’s definitely a right-wing advocacy group, not an unbiased source.

whimsicalism 3y ago
It is a RW think tank. I disagree that there is such thing as an unbiased source.
dylan604 3y ago
When their about page clearly states they are libertarian and yet you claim they are right-wing just shows you're not really informed about the situation
- elil17 3y ago
  In American politics, Libertarianism is used to refer to a flavor of right wing thinking focused on laissez-faire capitalism. I understand that the term has a different meaning in other contexts. I'll add that I more or less agree with the Cato Institute on this particular issue. I just think it's absolutely fair to highlight that this is an article coming from a source with an agenda.
- whimsicalism 3y ago
  Libertarian is rw in US

redserk 3y ago

I interpreted it as a mildly self-deprecating joke on the author's choice of usual reading materials. However, if we're going to be pedantic... the informal jab can work if the author doesn't respect the what is published by the CATO institute. If we're wanting to be true to the term, "rag" doesn't fit because the article is an opinion blog post, not published in a newspaper or magazine. > informal > a newspaper or magazine that is considered to be of bad quality: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rag https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rag > Informal. > ... > a newspaper or magazine regarded with contempt or distaste: Are you still subscribing to that rag? https://www.dictionary.com/browse/rags https://www.dictionary.com/browse/rags

whimsicalism 3y ago
> However, if we're going to be pedantic... the informal jab can work if the author doesn't respect the what is published by the CATO institute. I know what the words mean and the potential self-deprecation? But I don’t think we should characterize high quality publications we disagree with as low quality.
- redserk 3y ago
  If you're going to oppose another poster's use of the word "rag", why are you labeling the same source as "high quality"? Neither are objective descriptors. This is hypocrisy.
  - whimsicalism 3y ago
    What? I think it is a high quality pub (that I mostly disagree with) so I object to it being called a rag. I’m not objecting to the use of adjectives or non-objective descriptors writ large and I have no idea where you got that idea. "Rag" is a word we typically use for publications like NYPost, not an article by a research fellow at a think-tank. I suspect the usage here is motivated by political animus.