I personally don’t see much of that on this site on this topic. I see a whole lot of people talking about their personal experiences, the few structural things

I personally don’t see much of that on this site on this topic. I see a whole lot of people talking about their personal experiences, the few structural things we do know (e.g. office spend), and people making broad factual claims on either side getting reliably downvoted and “citation needed”’d But obviously the “what do you see here” discussion is pointless.