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"This investment, at a time when … wages war against utter wickedness, a war in which good must defeat evil, is an investment in the right and righteous values

"This investment, at a time when … wages war against utter wickedness, a war in which good must defeat evil, is an investment in the right and righteous values that spell progress for humanity" That is not a partner for creating logical systems. Very clear their current decisions are political.

throwaway4good 3y ago
That bananas quote is from an Israeli minister. Imagine what it would do if Intel became strongly associated with one side in the Israel-Palestine conflict. It could really hurt their business. Usually business leaders are smart enough to stay out of politics.
- davidy123 3y ago
  Apparently they have become strongly associated since that quote is part of the release for their new plant. It is sickening to me this kind of hard-right religious zealotry is part of decisions of tech companies. I am avoiding Intel as much as possible now, I hope others will consider this too.
  - UberFly 3y ago
    That quote didn't come out of Intel's mouth.
    - davidy123 3y ago
      It is directly associated with the deal they are making. Would you let that quote be used with a deal your company is making? Intel knows full well how this is being spun.
- myth_drannon 3y ago
  They are taking sides. That is easily seen during an interview with the CEO, who almost cried talking about the events of October 7th. Intel will give 5000$ war grant to the Israeli employees. One of Intel's largest fabs is a 20-minute drive from where the massacres occurred.
  - nebula8804 3y ago
    Do you know if AMD has any presence in Israel? Intel has already sold me multiple garbage dump products in the past and so if I can minimize my Israel related purchases i'd prefer to do that. The Mac is annoying since I think some pieces of their silicon designs come from Israel (storage controller). Can someone correct me if I am wrong on that?
    - myth_drannon 3y ago
      AMD is big in Israel as well. Most of the tech stuff is developed in Israel, side effects of future-oriented democracy I imagine. Boycotting things is useless virtue signalling of the woke disease. I would suggest going to pro-Palestinian protests and try to explain to them that raping, kidnapping and mutilating children is not going to bring peace and a country to Palestinians.
      - davidy123 3y ago
        It's fine to be future oriented, to share development, the problem is any religious destiny/racist element. I'm not sure what you mean by "woke disease," but consumerism involves evaluation. Oct 7 was horrible, but it didn't come out of nowhere. Sabra and Shatila, for example (Waltz with Bashir being a very good Israeli film on the topic), and the many thousands of people killed mutilated or displaced in their usual unhelpfully disproportionate response..
      - nebula8804 3y ago
        How is AMD big in Israel?
      - entropicdrifter 3y ago
        > Boycotting things is useless virtue signalling of the woke disease. I didn't realize HN served multiple alternate realities. Over here where I'm looking from, by far the largest boycotts of the last 8 years have been from conservatives who were upset by events like trans people being featured in ads and the existence of gay people in movies/tv shows.
    - 3y ago
sentinalien 3y ago
Basically all the big semiconductor companies do R&D in Israel
- davidy123 3y ago
  Yes, but it's all relative. A giant new development is different than a branch office. Though in all cases there is no doubt overlap with their military industrial complex. But I don't think we will normally see such religious extremism tied to projects, and that should be called out, loudly and clearly, as not ok.

throwaway4good 3y ago

That bananas quote is from an Israeli minister. Imagine what it would do if Intel became strongly associated with one side in the Israel-Palestine conflict. It could really hurt their business. Usually business leaders are smart enough to stay out of politics.

davidy123 3y ago
Apparently they have become strongly associated since that quote is part of the release for their new plant. It is sickening to me this kind of hard-right religious zealotry is part of decisions of tech companies. I am avoiding Intel as much as possible now, I hope others will consider this too.
- UberFly 3y ago
  That quote didn't come out of Intel's mouth.
  - davidy123 3y ago
    It is directly associated with the deal they are making. Would you let that quote be used with a deal your company is making? Intel knows full well how this is being spun.
myth_drannon 3y ago
They are taking sides. That is easily seen during an interview with the CEO, who almost cried talking about the events of October 7th. Intel will give 5000$ war grant to the Israeli employees. One of Intel's largest fabs is a 20-minute drive from where the massacres occurred.
- nebula8804 3y ago
  Do you know if AMD has any presence in Israel? Intel has already sold me multiple garbage dump products in the past and so if I can minimize my Israel related purchases i'd prefer to do that. The Mac is annoying since I think some pieces of their silicon designs come from Israel (storage controller). Can someone correct me if I am wrong on that?
  - myth_drannon 3y ago
    AMD is big in Israel as well. Most of the tech stuff is developed in Israel, side effects of future-oriented democracy I imagine. Boycotting things is useless virtue signalling of the woke disease. I would suggest going to pro-Palestinian protests and try to explain to them that raping, kidnapping and mutilating children is not going to bring peace and a country to Palestinians.
    - davidy123 3y ago
      It's fine to be future oriented, to share development, the problem is any religious destiny/racist element. I'm not sure what you mean by "woke disease," but consumerism involves evaluation. Oct 7 was horrible, but it didn't come out of nowhere. Sabra and Shatila, for example (Waltz with Bashir being a very good Israeli film on the topic), and the many thousands of people killed mutilated or displaced in their usual unhelpfully disproportionate response..
    - nebula8804 3y ago
      How is AMD big in Israel?
    - entropicdrifter 3y ago
      > Boycotting things is useless virtue signalling of the woke disease. I didn't realize HN served multiple alternate realities. Over here where I'm looking from, by far the largest boycotts of the last 8 years have been from conservatives who were upset by events like trans people being featured in ads and the existence of gay people in movies/tv shows.
  - 3y ago

sentinalien 3y ago

Basically all the big semiconductor companies do R&D in Israel

davidy123 3y ago
Yes, but it's all relative. A giant new development is different than a branch office. Though in all cases there is no doubt overlap with their military industrial complex. But I don't think we will normally see such religious extremism tied to projects, and that should be called out, loudly and clearly, as not ok.