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I see you're trying to downplay the situation, but these teens literally had to climb the barbed wire fence that surrounded the camp. According to this article[

I see you're trying to downplay the situation, but these teens literally had to climb the barbed wire fence that surrounded the camp. According to this article[1] they even tested negative the day before, yet couldn't leave. If I recall the situation correctly they weren't traveling, but Aboriginals with no means to self-isolate from their families so they were taken into quarantine. Your efforts to downplay this is what is so extremely scary about humans today. Before covid I thought another Hitler (yes I went there) was impossible, but now that I've seen how quickly people turn on each other and shut off their brains I'm not so sure. It taught me a lot about fascism for "the greater good" and how otherwise reasonable and sane people turn bat-shit insane with enough fearmongering. [1]: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-59486285 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-59486285

anonymouskimmer 3y ago
There have been plenty of people who, proportionate to what they could do, were worse than Hitler. Whenever a group of people assert that their rights can only come about through the policing of another group of people you face this possibility. I'm surprised you didn't come to this conclusion beforehand given the large history of people being retained in custody or prison despite being innocent or the state otherwise not having the right to detain them. False negative tests do exist. But yes, power differentials of any sort do easily lead to 'letter of the law' situations.
- worksonmine 3y ago
  My point is not about the individual, it's about the average Jane and Joes putting them in charge and asking them to commit atrocities. I used to have faith in humanity but I lost it in those years.
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    Being from the US I learned this a long time ago.
    - worksonmine 3y ago
      Congratulations, I guess?
defrost 3y ago
I spent the majority of "the COVID years" within Australia and overall relatively few people were held anywhere with barbed wire fencing, most people understood why quarentine periods were required to stop the spread of infection despite which there were multiple instances of little pockets here and there of people that either didn't understand or were determined to break quarantine for whatever reason. An isolation period is exactly that - a period of time in which checks are made to ensure there is no infection. These particular teens that you linked to could have waited a few days and walked out or broken quareantine - they chose to break quarentine. ( At this point there's a massive essay to insert on the clumsy handling by NT authorities of most things indigenous and the perspective on jail held by local communities - this was never going to end well without the kind of support that anybody local to NT | outback Australia can be sure wasn't provided https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubxZsfyEwWY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubxZsfyEwWY ) Your comments about Hilter and facism are more than a bit Over The Top .. you might recall that Buchenwald did not have a 14 day waiting period for release. Maybe back off with the bat-shit insane fearmongering?

anonymouskimmer 3y ago

There have been plenty of people who, proportionate to what they could do, were worse than Hitler. Whenever a group of people assert that their rights can only come about through the policing of another group of people you face this possibility. I'm surprised you didn't come to this conclusion beforehand given the large history of people being retained in custody or prison despite being innocent or the state otherwise not having the right to detain them. False negative tests do exist. But yes, power differentials of any sort do easily lead to 'letter of the law' situations.

worksonmine 3y ago
My point is not about the individual, it's about the average Jane and Joes putting them in charge and asking them to commit atrocities. I used to have faith in humanity but I lost it in those years.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  Being from the US I learned this a long time ago.
  - worksonmine 3y ago
    Congratulations, I guess?

defrost 3y ago

I spent the majority of "the COVID years" within Australia and overall relatively few people were held anywhere with barbed wire fencing, most people understood why quarentine periods were required to stop the spread of infection despite which there were multiple instances of little pockets here and there of people that either didn't understand or were determined to break quarantine for whatever reason. An isolation period is exactly that - a period of time in which checks are made to ensure there is no infection. These particular teens that you linked to could have waited a few days and walked out or broken quareantine - they chose to break quarentine. ( At this point there's a massive essay to insert on the clumsy handling by NT authorities of most things indigenous and the perspective on jail held by local communities - this was never going to end well without the kind of support that anybody local to NT | outback Australia can be sure wasn't provided https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubxZsfyEwWY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubxZsfyEwWY ) Your comments about Hilter and facism are more than a bit Over The Top .. you might recall that Buchenwald did not have a 14 day waiting period for release. Maybe back off with the bat-shit insane fearmongering?