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The problem with that statement is that it's basically a tautology, since the words "balanced", "healthy" etc. hide all the complexities. What is a "balanced" d

The problem with that statement is that it's basically a tautology, since the words "balanced", "healthy" etc. hide all the complexities. What is a "balanced" diet? What is moderately fit? What is the definition of a healthy social life?

medo-bear 3y ago
Here is my 'common sense' attempt: > What is a "balanced" diet? Eating all the necessary macro and micro nutrients in bounds of callorie requirements. > What is moderately fit? Walk for 5km without issue. Do 10 pushups. Do 20 situps. Do 20 squats. > What is the definition of a healthy social life? Dont let work be your whole life. To many people free time pretty much boils down to having dinner and going to bed. Instead engage more in socializing outdoors.
- eurekin 3y ago
  > Walk for 5km without issue. Do 10 pushups. Do 20 situps. Do 20 squats. Squats are often considered one of the most challenging exercises, as my physiotherapist points out. It's easy to underestimate them – I did 70 squats once and ended up straining my back. The key to a proper squat is maintaining stable back support throughout the entire movement. This principle isn't just crucial for squats; it's fundamental for all heavy weightlifting exercises. It's also incredibly relevant to everyday tasks like doing laundry or cleaning, as these activities often involve similar lifting motions. This concept is known as maintaining stability in the sagittal plane. However, it's equally important to focus on coronal and axial support, strength, and pain-free movement. It's worth noting that exercises like situps and pushups, often seen as simpler, can also be performed incorrectly by beginners. Regarding diet, it's an even more complex topic. Nutrition needs can vary greatly from person to person, and a one-size-fits-all approach is rarely effective. It's essential to consider individual differences and specific circumstances when discussing dietary advice.
  - medo-bear 3y ago
    Sorry I meant weight-free squats. In fact I think you do not need a gym or any equipment in order to do basic exercises. If you get too consumed by the details you will never start. I think what I wrote is a good baseline to start from. Sure I get that there is no such thing as one-size-fits all, but same applies to anything we call 'common sense'. However common sense is usually practical for most people. Adjust as you go along.
ctrw 3y ago
The fit question is pretty easy: able to pass the 1940 army fitness test: https://www.artofmanliness.com/health-fitness/fitness/are-you-as-fit-as-a-world-war-ii-gi/ https://www.artofmanliness.com/health-fitness/fitness/are-yo... The others aren't and are person dependent.
- marcus0x62 3y ago
  Able to pass a combat fitness test != "moderately fit"
  - brodouevencode 3y ago
    The 1940s combat fitness test is fairly different than the modern combat fitness test. Now it's all about power generation and less about endurance (save for the 2 mile run). https://www.army.mil/acft/ https://www.army.mil/acft/
  - ctrw 3y ago
    Apparently 6 pull ups are now a super human feat who no one is expected to manage.
    - marcus0x62 3y ago
      Even more apparently, that wasn’t the entire test.
brodouevencode 3y ago
> hide all the complexities Does it? There are some things that are obvious to anyone paying attention. We can tease out details ad nauseum but what is the point in that if you can get 95% of the way there just by being sensible.
- matsemann 3y ago
  Paying attention to who? Instagram influencers? Podcast hosts? What's sensible? How many workouts per week? What kind? What food to eat? How much of each?
  - brodouevencode 3y ago
    There is a standard of reasonableness - i.e. if the diet and exercise program results are reasonably good. Good health doesn't have to be an exact science. Forgoing processed foods, forgoing too many calories, and taking a daily walk is sufficient for the average person. The questions you are asking here only matter at the extremes (professional athletes, et. al.), not to the average person.
    - matsemann 3y ago
      No, that's my point. You're projecting your definitions of "sane", when there are thousands of choices to make. Avoiding processed foods isn't "simple", and who has decided a daily walk is sufficient?
      - brodouevencode 3y ago
        The entire basis for western criminal law is a reasonableness standard. This seems to work pretty well. I figured out how to not feed processed foods to my family pretty easily, I take daily walks with my family, etc. and went from not great shape to pretty decent shape. I must be a genius. But have it your way in the mire of pedantry you've carved out for yourself.

medo-bear 3y ago

Here is my 'common sense' attempt: > What is a "balanced" diet? Eating all the necessary macro and micro nutrients in bounds of callorie requirements. > What is moderately fit? Walk for 5km without issue. Do 10 pushups. Do 20 situps. Do 20 squats. > What is the definition of a healthy social life? Dont let work be your whole life. To many people free time pretty much boils down to having dinner and going to bed. Instead engage more in socializing outdoors.

eurekin 3y ago
> Walk for 5km without issue. Do 10 pushups. Do 20 situps. Do 20 squats. Squats are often considered one of the most challenging exercises, as my physiotherapist points out. It's easy to underestimate them – I did 70 squats once and ended up straining my back. The key to a proper squat is maintaining stable back support throughout the entire movement. This principle isn't just crucial for squats; it's fundamental for all heavy weightlifting exercises. It's also incredibly relevant to everyday tasks like doing laundry or cleaning, as these activities often involve similar lifting motions. This concept is known as maintaining stability in the sagittal plane. However, it's equally important to focus on coronal and axial support, strength, and pain-free movement. It's worth noting that exercises like situps and pushups, often seen as simpler, can also be performed incorrectly by beginners. Regarding diet, it's an even more complex topic. Nutrition needs can vary greatly from person to person, and a one-size-fits-all approach is rarely effective. It's essential to consider individual differences and specific circumstances when discussing dietary advice.
- medo-bear 3y ago
  Sorry I meant weight-free squats. In fact I think you do not need a gym or any equipment in order to do basic exercises. If you get too consumed by the details you will never start. I think what I wrote is a good baseline to start from. Sure I get that there is no such thing as one-size-fits all, but same applies to anything we call 'common sense'. However common sense is usually practical for most people. Adjust as you go along.

ctrw 3y ago

The fit question is pretty easy: able to pass the 1940 army fitness test: https://www.artofmanliness.com/health-fitness/fitness/are-you-as-fit-as-a-world-war-ii-gi/ https://www.artofmanliness.com/health-fitness/fitness/are-yo... The others aren't and are person dependent.

marcus0x62 3y ago
Able to pass a combat fitness test != "moderately fit"
- brodouevencode 3y ago
  The 1940s combat fitness test is fairly different than the modern combat fitness test. Now it's all about power generation and less about endurance (save for the 2 mile run). https://www.army.mil/acft/ https://www.army.mil/acft/
- ctrw 3y ago
  Apparently 6 pull ups are now a super human feat who no one is expected to manage.
  - marcus0x62 3y ago
    Even more apparently, that wasn’t the entire test.

brodouevencode 3y ago

> hide all the complexities Does it? There are some things that are obvious to anyone paying attention. We can tease out details ad nauseum but what is the point in that if you can get 95% of the way there just by being sensible.

matsemann 3y ago
Paying attention to who? Instagram influencers? Podcast hosts? What's sensible? How many workouts per week? What kind? What food to eat? How much of each?
- brodouevencode 3y ago
  There is a standard of reasonableness - i.e. if the diet and exercise program results are reasonably good. Good health doesn't have to be an exact science. Forgoing processed foods, forgoing too many calories, and taking a daily walk is sufficient for the average person. The questions you are asking here only matter at the extremes (professional athletes, et. al.), not to the average person.
  - matsemann 3y ago
    No, that's my point. You're projecting your definitions of "sane", when there are thousands of choices to make. Avoiding processed foods isn't "simple", and who has decided a daily walk is sufficient?
    - brodouevencode 3y ago
      The entire basis for western criminal law is a reasonableness standard. This seems to work pretty well. I figured out how to not feed processed foods to my family pretty easily, I take daily walks with my family, etc. and went from not great shape to pretty decent shape. I must be a genius. But have it your way in the mire of pedantry you've carved out for yourself.