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Afaik it lacks a few things important for gaming on new machines.

by jacooper 3y ago

rkagerer 3y ago
Like what?
- gray_-_wolf 3y ago
  I had driver issues, the nvidia drivers refused to install on LTSC due to "system too old" error. True, at the time it was very new laptop, and it would probably work fine if I tried it now.
- mananaysiempre 3y ago
  Better support for scheduling on Intel’s heterogeneous cores (≥12th gen CPUs) and AMD’s aggressive dynamic frequency scaling (Ryzen 7040) isn’t coming to Windows 10 ever, from what I understand.
birksherty 3y ago
Not sure what you are talking about. I am gaming on it for years and as my main PC.
npteljes 3y ago
For one, I missed the game bar, for its convenient background recording capability. So what I did is I re-enabled the Store, and then download the game bar with it.
TwentyPosts 3y ago
Well, if you really want to play games then you should just use Linux nowadays. Not even ironic, I see more issues on Windows nowadays than on Linux. That might say a lot about the games which I play, though.
- jorvi 3y ago
  The DE most people will end up running (Gnome) doesn’t even support VRR. Older games have a decent probability of stuff like controllers not working. Gaming on Linux has vastly improved yes, but its still much worse than on Windows.
- soraminazuki 3y ago
  Agreed, there's no reason to go through crazy hoops to use an OS made by a vendor that repeatedly and openly works against the user at every step of the way.
  - cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
    There literally is. Because it’s better for gaming. I say this as someone that doesn’t care in the slightest about gaming OR Windows. I just fail to see what this “pretend that a vendor that you don’t like isn’t offering anything of value” attitude ever does for anyone. It certainly doesn’t add to the conversation in any meaningful way.
    - soraminazuki 3y ago
      > a vendor you don’t like That’s quite some euphemism for describing a vendor that steals sensitive user data, bombards users with ads, and pulls all sorts of tricks to force users into submission. They’re even stealing IMAP credentials [1], and I’m just stunned that they can pull that off without fear of criminal prosecution. Windows is hostile, unreliable, and unfit for any purpose. But people are supposed to turn a blind eye because of some diminishing advantage the OS has in gaming? At what point can one be allowed to say no? [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38212453 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38212453
- nerdjon 3y ago
  I fairly strongly disagree, gaming on Linux has come a long way but you are still at a mercy of a compatibility tool like Proton. So if a game updates breaks something or the dev just happens to add something that isn't compatible (which has happened enough to make it here) than you may not be able to play the game you want until it is fixed. Also add in that if you are not on SteamOS and you want to play games outside of Steam it is more difficult for non technical people (or just people who are not as up to speed on that part of Linux). It really isn't there for most people when you can run Windows (like the LTSC version that I do) and have no compatibility issues.
- Cu3PO42 3y ago
  But not every game runs on Linux. And there are games I like to play with friends that aren't on Linux, so for better or worse I'm stuck with Windows for gaming. And that's not to speak of VRR issues, essentially no HDR support, etc.

Afaik it lacks a few things important for gaming on new machines.

rkagerer 3y ago

Like what?

gray_-_wolf 3y ago
I had driver issues, the nvidia drivers refused to install on LTSC due to "system too old" error. True, at the time it was very new laptop, and it would probably work fine if I tried it now.
mananaysiempre 3y ago
Better support for scheduling on Intel’s heterogeneous cores (≥12th gen CPUs) and AMD’s aggressive dynamic frequency scaling (Ryzen 7040) isn’t coming to Windows 10 ever, from what I understand.

birksherty 3y ago

Not sure what you are talking about. I am gaming on it for years and as my main PC.

npteljes 3y ago

For one, I missed the game bar, for its convenient background recording capability. So what I did is I re-enabled the Store, and then download the game bar with it.

TwentyPosts 3y ago

Well, if you really want to play games then you should just use Linux nowadays. Not even ironic, I see more issues on Windows nowadays than on Linux. That might say a lot about the games which I play, though.

jorvi 3y ago
The DE most people will end up running (Gnome) doesn’t even support VRR. Older games have a decent probability of stuff like controllers not working. Gaming on Linux has vastly improved yes, but its still much worse than on Windows.
soraminazuki 3y ago
Agreed, there's no reason to go through crazy hoops to use an OS made by a vendor that repeatedly and openly works against the user at every step of the way.
- cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
  There literally is. Because it’s better for gaming. I say this as someone that doesn’t care in the slightest about gaming OR Windows. I just fail to see what this “pretend that a vendor that you don’t like isn’t offering anything of value” attitude ever does for anyone. It certainly doesn’t add to the conversation in any meaningful way.
  - soraminazuki 3y ago
    > a vendor you don’t like That’s quite some euphemism for describing a vendor that steals sensitive user data, bombards users with ads, and pulls all sorts of tricks to force users into submission. They’re even stealing IMAP credentials [1], and I’m just stunned that they can pull that off without fear of criminal prosecution. Windows is hostile, unreliable, and unfit for any purpose. But people are supposed to turn a blind eye because of some diminishing advantage the OS has in gaming? At what point can one be allowed to say no? [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38212453 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38212453
nerdjon 3y ago
I fairly strongly disagree, gaming on Linux has come a long way but you are still at a mercy of a compatibility tool like Proton. So if a game updates breaks something or the dev just happens to add something that isn't compatible (which has happened enough to make it here) than you may not be able to play the game you want until it is fixed. Also add in that if you are not on SteamOS and you want to play games outside of Steam it is more difficult for non technical people (or just people who are not as up to speed on that part of Linux). It really isn't there for most people when you can run Windows (like the LTSC version that I do) and have no compatibility issues.
Cu3PO42 3y ago
But not every game runs on Linux. And there are games I like to play with friends that aren't on Linux, so for better or worse I'm stuck with Windows for gaming. And that's not to speak of VRR issues, essentially no HDR support, etc.