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I am very surprised that many here don't understand the great power and value of custom GPTs: They give you access to online APIs combined with pre-configured c

by singularity2001 3y ago

I am very surprised that many here don't understand the great power and value of custom GPTs: They give you access to online APIs combined with pre-configured custom prompts and a compute sandbox! You can query databases, trigger events and handle the results smartly. Now that OpenAi added the @ sign to talk to your preselected custom GPTs you can just use different APIs like slack colleges: @downloader get the data from test.tsv @sql create table according to tsv header @sql insert data @admin open mysql port One thing to keep in mind is that even though custom gpts have access to a local sandbox file system, passing data around almost always involves GPT handling the data which becomes forbidding for any large token stream. One critique that I share is the stupid branding "costume GPTs" and lack of discoverability: If you search the GPT store for wolfr you do not get wolfram alpha as completion! It only appears when you type wolfra Also it can't display any images other than dalle fantasies or pyplots which is a slightly annoying limitation, but familiar to users of other shells like bash.

lysecret 3y ago
Didn't hear about the @ sign that sounds indeed very useful. Also, you're examples agree with my experience. The important thing is to make the tasks as small as possible while still being useful being able to quickly combine gpts with @ makes that much much easier.
foofie 3y ago
> You can query databases, trigger events and handle the results smartly. A few posts in this discussion are pointing out the fact that these custom GPTs are unusable and unreliable. It's fair to talk about potential, but it's hard to accuse others of failing to see the value when you're not addressing the complains that those who assessed the value are pointing out that instead they are unusale.
- singularity2001 3y ago
  Good point, there is currently no way to assess the quality of custom GPTs other than relying on aggregation effects of popularity (you can already review them so reviews are coming soon). You can't even see if they are truly useful by accessing external APIs or if they are just custom prompts. > these custom GPTs are unusable and unreliable That's too harsh though. Sure of the millions of custom GPTs many are useless, but those that work do work reasonably well, why wouldn't they? About conversations being slightly hit or miss: I guess that's inherent to natural language, it can be circumvented by writing the prompt carefully and knowing the limitations.
  - skybrian 3y ago
    How do you find the good tools? I don’t much want to play with this stuff myself, but might change my mind if I read some good reviews somewhere. Similarly, there are probably a zillion Unix command-line utilities that I could install, but I won’t unless I somehow hear that they’re useful for something I care about. A command line tool needs its own documentation, but also, other people need to vouch for it.
    - tough 3y ago
      Grimoire's been my fav so far
      - singularity2001 3y ago
        just tried Grimoire, but it appears to be an example of "not working as advertised"? Tried to publish a function to netlify, was deployed as static html??
causal 3y ago
Displaying images would be nice but unfortunately is a common data extraction point with chatbots so understandable they would not make it possible.
- singularity2001 3y ago
  they could allow images from the same domain as the custom gpt's api
dtagames 3y ago
You can train it to display images from the web if you tell it how to build the URL. I've found that it often won't display the image in the preview or dev window, but they do appear when you run the GPT. One caveat is the output of a Custom GPT (a saved conversation) can't be shared if it contains DALL-E images.
- singularity2001 3y ago
  what do you mean? if I say display test.com/test.jpg it will not include a html image tag. or will it render image urls returned from my api? recently it often doesn't even create proper links, just a href=_new and the correct link description. first I thought my gpt triggered some safety mechanism but I've seen working links next to broken links
  - dtagames 3y ago
    It is possible to craft the prompt so that it computes and displays the image. It's difficult and appears to almost be a jailbreak. But it is possible and I have seen it working in my own projects.

lysecret 3y ago

Didn't hear about the @ sign that sounds indeed very useful. Also, you're examples agree with my experience. The important thing is to make the tasks as small as possible while still being useful being able to quickly combine gpts with @ makes that much much easier.

foofie 3y ago

> You can query databases, trigger events and handle the results smartly. A few posts in this discussion are pointing out the fact that these custom GPTs are unusable and unreliable. It's fair to talk about potential, but it's hard to accuse others of failing to see the value when you're not addressing the complains that those who assessed the value are pointing out that instead they are unusale.

singularity2001 3y ago
Good point, there is currently no way to assess the quality of custom GPTs other than relying on aggregation effects of popularity (you can already review them so reviews are coming soon). You can't even see if they are truly useful by accessing external APIs or if they are just custom prompts. > these custom GPTs are unusable and unreliable That's too harsh though. Sure of the millions of custom GPTs many are useless, but those that work do work reasonably well, why wouldn't they? About conversations being slightly hit or miss: I guess that's inherent to natural language, it can be circumvented by writing the prompt carefully and knowing the limitations.
- skybrian 3y ago
  How do you find the good tools? I don’t much want to play with this stuff myself, but might change my mind if I read some good reviews somewhere. Similarly, there are probably a zillion Unix command-line utilities that I could install, but I won’t unless I somehow hear that they’re useful for something I care about. A command line tool needs its own documentation, but also, other people need to vouch for it.
  - tough 3y ago
    Grimoire's been my fav so far
    - singularity2001 3y ago
      just tried Grimoire, but it appears to be an example of "not working as advertised"? Tried to publish a function to netlify, was deployed as static html??

causal 3y ago

Displaying images would be nice but unfortunately is a common data extraction point with chatbots so understandable they would not make it possible.

singularity2001 3y ago
they could allow images from the same domain as the custom gpt's api

dtagames 3y ago

You can train it to display images from the web if you tell it how to build the URL. I've found that it often won't display the image in the preview or dev window, but they do appear when you run the GPT. One caveat is the output of a Custom GPT (a saved conversation) can't be shared if it contains DALL-E images.

singularity2001 3y ago
what do you mean? if I say display test.com/test.jpg it will not include a html image tag. or will it render image urls returned from my api? recently it often doesn't even create proper links, just a href=_new and the correct link description. first I thought my gpt triggered some safety mechanism but I've seen working links next to broken links
- dtagames 3y ago
  It is possible to craft the prompt so that it computes and displays the image. It's difficult and appears to almost be a jailbreak. But it is possible and I have seen it working in my own projects.