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Surprised TikTok hasn’t been banned in western countries yet.
by shdh 3y ago
Surprised TikTok hasn’t been banned in western countries yet.
- blitzar 3y agoThey havent banned the homegrown brainwashing apps - why start now?
- afiori 3y agoThis is a meaningless equivalence if you want to be even slightly cynic: the homegrown brainwashing apps are a surveilance tresure trove for the government [0]. Foreign brainwashing apps are too but for other governments. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
- grotorea 3y agoForeign semi-hostile brainwashing apps do seem a lot easier to ban.
- jocaal 3y agoYou can easily access the chinese version of tiktok and from what I've seen, douyin has exactly the same garbage as tiktok. These apps aren't hostile for national security reasons. They are hostile for monetary reasons.
- londons_explore 3y agoThey paid/bribed the US to not be banned in the form of a hugely overpriced services deal to Oracle.
- say_it_as_it_is 3y agowhat elected officials were shareholders of Oracle?
- dspillett 3y agoThey don't have to be directly involved in Oracle, just receiving *ahem* help and advice from lobbyists with appropriate connections.
- nness 3y agoWestern countries, at least the ones I've lived in, don't often out-right ban software. It's unpopular and likely to garner scrutiny from both the press and constituents, but largely, it's a political grenade — you have to constantly fight the software suppliers each release; it's a signal to businesses that the government is not going to protect your commercial interests; and philosophically it's just over-reach. Banning TikTok is akin to "banning all apps from a country" and the obvious response will be that country will ban your apps in return... and businesses operating in those countries may be quite unhappy to find their market evaporate.
- Sabinus 3y ago>the obvious response will be that country will ban your apps in return I agree in general, although in this particular most Western apps are banned in TikTok country of origin anyway.
- miroljub 3y agoTikTok is published by ByteDance, a public company incorporated in the Cayman Islands. Can you tell which "western apps" are banned in Cayman Islands?
- goriloser 3y agoAnd Microsoft/Apple/Facebook sells stuff in Europe through a company incorporated in Ireland. Does that make those companies Irish?
- Sabinus 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ByteDance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ByteDance It's a Chinese company. The location of incorporation is pretty tangential to the discussion of app censorship.
- felsokning 3y ago>Surprised TikTok hasn’t been banned in western countries yet. Other than the GFoC (Great Firewall of China) scenario, how would they be banned? Maybe dropping all route broadcasts that contain TikTok's range[s]? Even if were possible to ban them, you have the more likely scenario that they drop an endpoint on the dark web to get around that (see: Facebook[0]) and you're back at square one. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_onion_address https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_onion_address
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- dns_snek 3y agoIt's not that deep, these are casual users who by and large won't try to bypass restrictions. All it would realistically take is the app's removal from Google's and Apple's app store and null-routing their IP ranges would kill them for good. The intersection between people who use TikTok and people who are willing to use Tor for daily entertainment is probably a dozen people.
- dragonelite 3y agoWell how will western countries do their global psy-ops actions on the younger generation late teens early 20s. Most definitely not on facebook and twitter :p They just hate it that they can't use excessive censorship like they do on western made social media platforms. Only leverage western countries has at the moment is using/abusing ads revenue and IP laws.
- guilhas 3y agoHave you heard of Youtube shorts? Same dumb/disturbing content, doesn't need login, comes pre-installed in every device My nephews just grab any device and start scrolling
- hbossy 3y agoI'm more interested in having an option to remove all tiktok-like short video suggestions from Facebook, Youtube and Instagram apps. It's easy in the browser but not on my phone.